Lost many Facebook friends who were friends, but that's okay.

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I can't believe it.

I lost many followers (who are friendS most of them in real life) ever since i am become more active and vocal in my Facebook. I disappeared from it for a year or two. Then i came back. I was likeable but not now. I was not who i was. I was me. I was my real self. And people do not like real people. People like masks.. but i guess real situations exposes fake people. You know. I am happy. Because i know what to do now. Unlike most of you, you all think you all have friends. You can say i am rationalizing and all or perhaps i am in pain for losing friends, but are they friends?

What is "friends"?

or to put it simply, I am the guy who gets divorced many years later wondering what happen. :) In fact, it started way before it happen.

The irony that some of those friends are from Girlschase too.

p.s: Build friendships comrade style and shark style. Shark style is good until you forgot you are in it. While i did not throw anyone under the bus, i was still in shark style friendships because most people are this.

Thanks Chase.

I hope the divine or Eckhart tolle (haha :) ) bless you with good health and wealth. I don't think i can ever repay you but to live my life the best that i can. PEople need to go out and learn life more then they can appreciate how your knowledge is not available anywhere else.

Zac
 

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"people do not like real people. People like masks"
>>>> Good toughts Zac, I came to the same conclusion. Most people are superficial, they just like to hang around others with the same mindset. Once you start thinking little bit more, you are creating different mindset, thus removing yourself from the common groups of people that we call friends. With different mindset, most will not understand you, they can no longer relate...


True friendships are rare. To be a good friend (but also a lover or leader) you have to be able to give. Give energy, thoughts, ideas, views... Most people are takers, not givers, thus they just sort of "hang around" while waiting what will happen next. Thus a person who can give away positive energy usually becomes popular...

We can have many hang out buddies, but how many true friends can one really have? Not many. Most people on social media are just empty numbers, they are not real friends. Most people don't care about others, to them you are just a profile of a guy that they check once or twice a year for two minutes, just because they are curious what everybody else is doing with their life, but that's not really a friendship...

When you think about it, learning seduction is also creating a new mask. You want girls, you have to paint a mask of sort of Alpha male on your face and behavior, you have to do many things that are not natural to you, otherwise you will not be able to get those girls you want :)
 

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Drck,

I read your response, all of it by word here.

It's an out there thing. I don't think there's such thing as "morality", to be honest. The ones who do it are losing, losers or we can't respect life as it is. While it is important to not screw people's lifes over, but what is "screwing people"?

Let's say most people, even here. I give an example before, terrorist as an example. Everyone thinks terrorist is an enemy, but they really not. Most of them are sexually frustrated males or guys who can't get jobs or stuck in normal jobs or schools are redundant and encourage 'booby trapping', the irony. Most of them are in unfortunate neighbourhood. Some of them migrate to Syria from Britain and she doesn't even know what she is doing, and it's a she, not a he.

What makes this MORE interesting is i noted recently why an acquaintance, a girl, did not attend school often and it was at the back of my head, and i thought about it occasionally. I also did not see her very much but then, she noted that she could not "fit in". This blew my mind also. The world is ridiculous. There's so much i don't know.

Again, why i believe that "morality" is a subject people use for 'one up' against other people, and/or things are not always straightforward. Here's here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDGU7PU6MvM


Chase noted in a post where once you sleeping with a girl every two to three weeks, you pretty much lonely at the top. The thing is not everyone knows who's at the top, and most people thinks they will be at the top or want to go there that they forget that other people are selling them on a dream. Everything has always been about the basics, the practice, the Rocky Balboa, the boring stuff, the everyday practice. Thus, my point is that illusion of success where i can talk to girls and make a guy jealous vs actually sleeping with the girl, and that line always moves. The criteria or the "standard" or barrier of entry always moves too.

For most people, their "standard" is that a first kiss is sleeping with the girl. That itself is scary because you don't know what's real, perhaps until you actually

1)get hurt physically or emotionally
2)study how the world works and stumble upon it
3)parents who tell you things
4)mentor who tell you things
5)end up in jail or worse, death

or perhaps other answer

The irony i talk to Chase about a monk and a ferrari and value. Life is scary sometimes. We all want what we want.

Zac
 

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If you do everything like everybody else, you are just part of the herd. You are a follower, usually bored, always waiting what everybody else will do...

Once you start thinking, you'll realize that society as such is simply crap. Superficial, narcissistic followers, always seeking some fairness and justice, some non-existing wealth, always achieving and reaching some useless values... Money, diamonds, safety, fairness, justice... Do such things even exist, other than in our heads? Life is simply not fair, some are born to rich and loving families, others in poor countries destroyed by wars. All they know is hate... Life is not fair, and it never will be... All values are just artificial, existing only in our fantasy... It is only a common believe that worthless things actualy worth lots of effort to achieve... People are just dreamers, all they do is dream about beautiful lives...

Why do we even need money? Why do most people work so hard just to get by every month? It doesn't even make any sense. Any guy, as a man, doesn't really need much to live. A guy doesn't need expensive car, big house or fancy clothes. Yet he works and works so hard to get all these things. Why? Because everybody else is doing it. Everybody is a slave to the System, everybody does it only because the system teaches you to do so...

So you dissociate yourself from the herd, you start seeing the societal System as it is. But now you are also different, and thus you are alone. Very few want to understand, very few want to associate with you because nobody wants to be alone. Being alone is tough, being part of the blind herd is easy. Being a follower of a System is easy, but walking your own way and thinking on your own is very tough...

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Sleeping with girls is actually very easy. So easy that most wouldn't even accept that it is possible...

1. You shall dissociate yourself from the herd, from the common believe that getting girls is difficult. It is not. Leave the System, leave the believe that sleeping with girls is difficult... Leave everything what your friends are saying, leave your parents and family behind, forget all about morality. Let all of it go, let the whole System disappear, just be alone... The struggles with the System is that usually you have to know the System first, you have to study it and understand it before you can leave it...

2. You shall have desire to sleep with girls. If you don't have desire, or if your desire is wasted in other activities (such as porn), you simply don't have enough steam (testosterone) to go after girls. In other words you have to be horny, without being horny all seduction knowledge is totally useless...

3. You shall observe. Carefully observe. There are girls that will not sleep with you, they are simply not 'open' to you. If you don't observe you will be wasting lots of time chasing after girls that are not interested. At the same time, there are girls that want to sleep with you. Go after those...

4. You shall be bold, you shall be as simple as possible. Show her, suggest that you want her. Have balls to look in her eyes with desire to fuck her. That's all you need, she already knows what you want, she is not stupid. She will be delighted to finally meet man with balls. Don't try to seduce. Don't try to be attractive because you already are. Don't try to be sexy because you already are... Just keep calm... You are the man, thus you are already attractive and sexy, nothing else is needed...

5. You shall keep your feelings to yourself. She may ask but don't tell her, she doesn't want to know. She may look but don't show her, she doesn't want to see...

6. You shall have place where to take her. Suggest that you want to go there, without making her feel like a slut. And she will go... whoala, miracle happens...

7. You shall not place too much value on sex. Sex is pointless, it has no meaning. It's just touching and fucking, feeling pleasure... The more value you put on sex the harder you have to work for it. The less value you put on it, the easier it gets...
 

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Drck,

Drck said:
If you do everything like everybody else, you are just part of the herd. You are a follower, usually bored, always waiting what everybody else will do...

Very real.

Drck said:
So you dissociate yourself from the herd, you start seeing the societal System as it is. But now you are also different, and thus you are alone. Very few want to understand, very few want to associate with you because nobody wants to be alone. Being alone is tough, being part of the blind herd is easy. Being a follower of a System is easy, but walking your own way and thinking on your own is very tough...

-------------

Sleeping with girls is actually very easy. So easy that most wouldn't even accept that it is possible...

1. You shall dissociate yourself from the herd, from the common believe that getting girls is difficult. It is not. Leave the System, leave the believe that sleeping with girls is difficult... Leave everything what your friends are saying, leave your parents and family behind, forget all about morality. Let all of it go, let the whole System disappear, just be alone... The struggles with the System is that usually you have to know the System first, you have to study it and understand it before you can leave it...

2. You shall have desire to sleep with girls. If you don't have desire, or if your desire is wasted in other activities (such as porn), you simply don't have enough steam (testosterone) to go after girls. In other words you have to be horny, without being horny all seduction knowledge is totally useless...

3. You shall observe. Carefully observe. There are girls that will not sleep with you, they are simply not 'open' to you. If you don't observe you will be wasting lots of time chasing after girls that are not interested. At the same time, there are girls that want to sleep with you. Go after those...

4. You shall be bold, you shall be as simple as possible. Show her, suggest that you want her. Have balls to look in her eyes with desire to fuck her. That's all you need, she already knows what you want, she is not stupid. She will be delighted to finally meet man with balls. Don't try to seduce. Don't try to be attractive because you already are. Don't try to be sexy because you already are... Just keep calm... You are the man, thus you are already attractive and sexy, nothing else is needed...

5. You shall keep your feelings to yourself. She may ask but don't tell her, she doesn't want to know. She may look but don't show her, she doesn't want to see...

6. You shall have place where to take her. Suggest that you want to go there, without making her feel like a slut. And she will go... whoala, miracle happens...

7. You shall not place too much value on sex. Sex is pointless, it has no meaning. It's just touching and fucking, feeling pleasure... The more value you put on sex the harder you have to work for it. The less value you put on it, the easier it gets...

I feel "normal" but when you are on Girlschase mentality, or red pill mentality or PUA mentality if you will, which really is just a stage or platform of where your thoughts are, it is quite something else to see that people can't relate to you.

They say "The thing about smart people is they sound crazy to dumb people"

and i don't think i am smart.

Zac
 

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"I feel "normal" but when you are on Girlschase mentality, or red pill mentality or PUA mentality if you will, which really is just a stage or platform of where your thoughts are, it is quite something else to see that people can't relate to you."

Yep. You have different mindset than majority of people out there. Remember, most of the stuff is pretty much 180 degrees against mainstream, so not too many people can really relate to you, including guys...

What choices do you have?
(1) Return to group thinking > Ugly!
(2) Be alone with your mindset > Not attractive...
(3) Find friend(s) with similar mindset > Sometimes very difficult, if not impossible
(4) Live double life, e.g. during the day or at work 'normal' guy, the rest of the day PUA/Seducer/Red Pill > Realistic, but could be considered weird
(5) Blend with the group while keeping your mindset > In reality still alone either way you look at it...
(6) ...?? Get married and forget all of it ? > :)

It is as if you were swimming against the current, yet really had no other choice :)
 

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Drck,

Drck said:
What choices do you have?
(1) Return to group thinking > Ugly!
(2) Be alone with your mindset > Not attractive...
(3) Find friend(s) with similar mindset > Sometimes very difficult, if not impossible
(4) Live double life, e.g. during the day or at work 'normal' guy, the rest of the day PUA/Seducer/Red Pill > Realistic, but could be considered weird
(5) Blend with the group while keeping your mindset > In reality still alone either way you look at it...
(6) ...?? Get married and forget all of it ? > :)

It is as if you were swimming against the current, yet really had no other choice :)

I do live double lifes, and tell people about it. I have a good guy smile, that people do find me intimidating if i do not smile.

But most groups are lonely anyway. We all want what we want. Talking about it, i never really dive deep into social circles and the dynamics of it but Chase indirectly mention that a lot of social circles are a waste of time.

Which is true. Hope to write a post on it. And hopefully Hector reads this and writes an article. He is currently writing a book on social circles, he knows how to draw the line. He makes social circle his bitch instead of getting pounded by the unnecessary bullshit of it.

Zac
 

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Sometimes it seems that you are trying to find solution to life Zac...

Life is not to be solved, Life is to be Lived :)
 

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Drck,

Drck said:
Sometimes it seems that you are trying to find solution to life Zac...

Life is not to be solved, Life is to be Lived :)

Sounds great but technically it is just a mindset. I still need to learn the skills. This is unfortunately the loopholes of naturals vs PUA but also everywhere. When you ask a self help guru, he will say all the general stuff, the mindset but not everyone can explain the tangible. As example. You see, Everyone can say that society is entitled and have entitlement mentality but when you look at it, it is really not so much that. In one way, We put people in fuck up positions and we pretend we are "Jesus Christ". It is the same when we fertilize the egg in the womb.

The first sperm dies but sure as hell we take credit that we are born.

I guess we humans all are delusional human beings who often can't recognize oneself because no one teaches us so+causality+lack of awareness partly due to point 1, and claim credit for success, and pretend that others do not exist, when and while we put them there.


Zac
 
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