What Are "High-End Venues"? Are They Worth Going to for Girls?

Hey guys, welcome back.

Today (as well as next week), I wish to discuss a nightgame-related subject – namely high-end venues.

Within the nightgame circles of the seduction community, doing high-end venues is often seen as the pinnacle of nightgame – all the best nightgamers would go and get success in high-end venues. Throughout the history of this community, all the top nightgamers did high-end venues, and part of their selling point was “I am such a good nightgamer – I do high-end venues”.

But also outside of this beloved community, especially in certain circles – going to a high-end venue is seen as something cool, something of high value, and something worth showing off. In fact, most people going to high-end venues go there – not to have fun, but to be seen going there.

But what is a high-end venue? And what makes them high-end? And how good are they really to meet women?

I will discuss this subject in this post – as well as debunking some common myths surrounding them.

Then next week – I will go more into detail on how to really work them.

Sounds good?

Alright then, let's go!

 

What Is a High-End Venue?

A high-end venue can come in many flavors. They tend to have two things in common:

1. They are selective and harder to get into

2. They tend to be expensive (but do not let that stop you – this post will cover this issue).

They are generally the exclusive places where the cool cats hang – and where the hot girls are. And they tend to have a lot of hot girls. They can look edgy – and try to attract the cool cat stereotype – e.g. the fashion crowd – the influencers, the fashion guys, the social connectors (the best high-end venues in my book) or they can try to look fancy and try to attract supposedly wealthy people (spoiler alert – people there are rarely wealthy).

More on this below.

 

Who Frequents High-End Venues

Are they all rich and famous people? What type of men frequent those places? What kind of women?

Well, aside from women… right… they only need to be hot.

There is no denying that certain high-end clubs tend to be quite expensive – with hefty cover charges, expensive prices at the bar, and so on. I will get more into where the money actually goes in a bit…

But to answer the question: most people in those venues are not rich. They are mostly fake rich. At best, they are some new rich, happy-go-lucky guy. I used to call these guys MasterCard billionaires. In fact, I have often had guys from such money asking me to borrow money. They are mostly broke or have normal jobs. They rarely have those classy jobs.

See, the true rich kids do not need to go to such venues. I have many friends who grew up in rich families and I went to a high school with many rich kids. Here is where rich people go: they go to a pub, order a normal beer, and chill.

Those who need to flash money are usually those who do not have it, or those who have been broke all their life and suddenly got some economic success (think of the tacky investor guy). They constitute the majority of the crowd in high-end venues.

The rich crowd may party, but usually they host private parties in their villas, or they rent some place to host a party and select who gets invited. Within the true rich crowd, parties tend to be more private and exclusive. Very rarely in a club.

Now, those high-end venues may host famous people – but here is the catch – they were invited by the promoters – got offered a free table, free booze, etc. They are the product. This is… to make the place look fancy.

Do not get me wrong, there are places which are truly high-end – like very selective, and they are only found in those hotspots like LA, NYC, London, Paris, Berlin (Berghain wink wink) etc. One would be Club Silencio in Paris (owned by David Lynch), which is ranked the 7th hardest place to get into (and yours truly has managed to pull from there – sorry for the slight brag). These clubs do host celebrities and influencers.

But these clubs are a totally different game. I could write some posts about how to get into those, but considering the majority of the readers do not even have such a venue where they live, I will instead concentrate on the normal local “cool cat” venues of your area.

The normal “high-end” usually hosts two types of men: cool kids, and suckers willing to pay. Simple as that.

When it comes to girls – they usually host status-seeking women. Not usually the top tier in terms of wife material, but they can be very good-looking and a lot of fun.

 

Are High-End Venues Even Good?

So everything they made you believe was a lie! And they sound horrendous! But are they actually good to meet women?

Spoiler alert: yes.

But first, let us debunk some myths.

 

Are They a Rip-Off?

To some extent, it holds true. There are only two reasons to go to such a venue.

1. They tend to have the best logistics.

2. They host a very high concentration of beautiful women

When it comes to the first one – the logistics, those venues tend to invest in very fancy venues that look good, that have a certain vibe to them. They are expensive, so you expect a certain standard. My experience is that many of the top places tend to have very good logistics.

Yeah, they have a dancefloor which is loud.

A few words about those loud dancefloors: that’s where the majority of the party is happening. This is where everybody is, this is where most girls are. This is where the tables with champagne are.

But this is not where you will meet women. See, those venues tend to have areas for networking, that is, lounges, smoking rooms, outside areas. This is where you will meet girls. Partly because you can run verbal game there, but also because you do not need to compete with the guys with fancy tables and bottle service.

And no, those guys can be ignored. I have never lost a girl to those guys, like ever. Yeah, girls go to them to get a free drink and a quick chat, and then they are gone. Yeah, they are the big suckers.

Now, not all high-end venues are big, and some do not have good logistics – some are just one big room, with tables, and lots of noise. RUN! They are just crap.

It gets even worse if the majority of the club is tables – with different levels of tables – almost like some form of hierarchy – gotta pay extra to get to the top. STAY AWAY.

Regarding the second one – the amount of girls, ask yourself this: who would pay a lot in entrance, buy expensive drinks, or tables (multiple 100 dollars) if the place is a total sausage fest? Nobody.

So part of the product, and part of what makes them worth it, is that you pay to get guaranteed the presence of many women. The ratio is almost always ideal there – often with a majority of women. Now, this part cannot be understated. Sure, women will be selective – in the sense that their shield might be up – they are there to be seen and meet key people, so they have to put on some attitude.

But what you do avoid is the bullshit one faces when dealing with a bad ratio – like women behaving like queens, playing jealousy plots, flirting with every guy…That is a much worse thing to deal with.

More on this below.

 

Meeting Girls in High-End Venues

Ok, they are filled with girls, but are they actually good to meet women at? They may sound like an arena for status mongering, filled with superficial people. True, they are.

Now, let us debunk some common myths. And shed light on how to meet women there – i.e. the actual dynamic. And things are not how you think they are.

 

Is It Harder to Pick Up Girls There?

If you only have bad to ‘just decent’ game, these venues can be very challenging. This is because, as I just said, women there are there to be seen – not to hook up. This does not entail that they are not open to it – but the only way to get them is through proper game.

You will not get “lucky” there. So the infamous Hail Mary won’t be happening there (or is very unlikely to).

Also, because women are not there to hook up, they are not in the headspace. In a meet market venue, you may open a chick and if she is into you, you can escalate and get to business because the vibe allows for it. High end venues are not that sexual. Escalation can be hard. This is why dancefloors suck in such venues in my book.

The only way to get the girls in high-end venues is to seduce them. Now fortunately, those venues offer a better ground for seduction – generally due to good logistics (as I have already touched upon), but also because the ratio is good.

So if a girl likes you, you will not deal with much bullshit. Not too many male cockblocks, no weird social butterflying. It can happen, but it is unlikely because the ratio is favorable, which makes butterflying risky business for her.

Furthermore, girls there may have some shields up – they do not want to be seen with losers. This is why you approach indirect. Once you are in an interaction, and manage to seduce her properly, it becomes an easy deal.

See, the challenge in those venues tends to be in the early game. It can be rough to open. But once you are in, things tend to get much easier (and tend to be much easier than in other venues). Remember, it is a high end club, which tends to be selective (if they are not selective at the door, then it is not high end). And because you were selected at the door, and happen to convey high value to her, then you are a very attractive guy to her.

Another more subtle aspect is that women are not there to hook up. So they do not have their “sex shield up”. What they have up is their social shield – who gets to talk to them is exclusive to her – because she wants to be seen as an exclusive girl. But this type of shield is more of a test – if you can pass it, you are worthy. The “sex-shield” you will face in meet markets is much nastier – it is a shield to outright protect her pussy from all the horny guys hitting on her (and very likely the ratio is not in your favor, making this much worse).

 In a meet market, girls know they are surrounded by horny guys. Not here. So once you are “in”, as in “truly in”, you will face little to no resistance, as long as you pass some of her tests (and you will be tested). Furthermore, less escalation will be needed to arouse her – exactly because the vibe is not that sexual there.

Now, if  on top of that you escalate in a discreet way (e.g. while isolated) or verbally (she won’t be seen by others as a loose “slut”), then you really have a good shot.

In a nutshell: high end venues are harder if your game is bad or just decent. They are easier if you know how to play (i.e. your game is good). Meet markets tend to be more hazardous – more likely to get lucky, and get a freebie, which tends to favor less experienced seducers. Experienced seducers do not like relying on luck – they like to be in control, because they master the game.

 

Concluding Remarks

High end venues are not made for you to succeed – they are, like every other venue, made to cash in. Never forget that. Their business model is to spend a lot of resources on PR, make it cheap for women, if not outright paying (directly with cash, or indirectly with a free bar) women to go there, attend the tables etc.

However, once you see the matrix, you can game the system, and thus you find yourself in a place filled with very beautiful women; and where most men are too busy focusing on status and money, you have your focus elsewhere – on seduction.

So if your game is good, these are literally gold mines. Trust me, most nightgame veterans love them, not because they want to brag online about “doing high end venues”, although there is some of that going on, but that usually gets old, and usually the real veterans tend to care little about online ego-validation. They go for what is best, and tend to be pragmatic.

In my book, the hard part is getting into high end venues. That’s most of the game honestly – this and seeing through the smoke and mirrors – and not getting intimidated by them. Once that is done, and your game is good, you have the perfect arena for good proper pick up.

And over the next few weeks I will shed more light on this subject. First covering how to get in, and then how to actually game those venues – use their “high end” intimidating factors against themselves – e.g. how to game the system.

Stay tuned.

Best,

Alek