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id=\u0022comment-95431\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/95431#comment-95431\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Franciis\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Franciis\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Franciis\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Franciis\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/95431#comment-95431\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EBeckster\u0026#039;s got vitality!\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EFranciis (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Friday, 13 September 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/how-energetic-be-when-approaching-new-girl\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EBeckster\u0027s got vitality!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/youtu.be\/5s3PB44paCI?feature=shared\u0022\u003Ehttps:\/\/youtu.be\/5s3PB44paCI?feature=shared\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4290\/95431\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-95432\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/95432#comment-95432\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Notsofast\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Notsofast\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Notsofast\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Notsofast\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/95432#comment-95432\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EEnergy level\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003ENotsofast (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Saturday, 14 September 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/how-energetic-be-when-approaching-new-girl\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EChase, in one date, spellbinding and all the 10 modules of TDA, you are pretty much low energy and i can\u0027t quite picture you doing a Beckster.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIn fact as i kept going through the above programs, i kept wondering how the heck girls don\u0027t get bored around you with that kind of vibe...\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBtw would you say your vibe and Wentworth Miller\u0027s are kinda on par? In prison break he has a laid back vibe and speaks almost in a whisper. In your opinion can his kind of vibe bode well for seduction? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027m always way too high energy. But i\u0027m looking to ditch that, blend your vibe with Miller\u0027s and experiment in the field.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESo, in short at the start of the seduction i should come in high energy and lively like Sasha Daygame, then during the course of the seduction switch to the Chase\/Wentmorth Miller vibe? Am i getting that right?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4290\/95432\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-95434\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/95434#comment-95434\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/95434#comment-95434\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EApproach Vibe\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Saturday, 14 September 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/how-energetic-be-when-approaching-new-girl\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/95432#comment-95432\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ENotsofast-\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ERight, I don\u0027t come in at Beckster\u0027s energy levels. But my approaches are higher energy than what you see in Spellbinding or One Date. I\u0027m sure if you find a video of Beckster sitting on a couch talking about game he will not be operating at the same energy levels he is at opening in the club either.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EGenerally when you open you want to be speaking a little faster, a little more expressive, and more energetic than you will be once you\u0027re in the thick of the seduction. Not too fast that you sound jumpy or nervous, but fast enough that you seem lively instead of lazy and you grab her attention.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cblockquote\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESo, in short at the start of the seduction i should come in high energy and lively like Sasha Daygame, then during the course of the seduction switch to the Chase\/Wentmorth Miller vibe? Am i getting that right?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/blockquote\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EYeah, Sasha\u0027s energy on approach is perfect:\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022youtube-container\u0022\u003E\n\u003Ciframe allowfullscreen=\u0022false\u0022 class=\u0022youtube-video\u0022 frameborder=\u00220\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ddjZf7Nqbo0?rel=0\u0022\u003E\u003C\/iframe\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ECome in like Sasha, then once you\u0027re seated, you want to bring the energy down to a more conversational, seductive level, and you\u0027ve got it.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EChase\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4290\/95434\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-95442\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/95442#comment-95442\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Anonymous2024\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Anonymous2024\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Anonymous2024\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Anonymous2024\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/95442#comment-95442\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ESignals\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EAnonymous2024 (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Monday, 16 September 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/how-energetic-be-when-approaching-new-girl\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHi Chase,\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOne question unrelated, and one related to this article.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E1. I noticed something quite strange for a while now. Say you sit or stand close to a women you find attractive. You check her up, glance at her. Occasionally, she also notices that you are obviously checking her out. Then, you don\u0027t make a move (because you are shy or something). So then, she does not glance at you, or stare at you, or whatever, but in peripheral vision, you notice something strange about her. She, very subtly, starts to move her legs around more often, or she starts to look at her nails, or maybe she starts to play with her hair more. But all without really giving you any hint that she likes you, but still, you simply notice that all her behavior is kind of more \u0022activated\u0022. However, without giving you a very obvious sign, such as a glance, or a smile, still behaving quite distant. Even if you notice her behavioral change, and want to look at her, she does not give a glance back. What the hell is that? I have the feeling, this does mean something, but I honestly dont know what, because its extremely mixed and weird.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E2. I really dont know about this energy level stuff you here talked about. I am usually a very tuned down and reserved person, you could say cold. It feels utterly unfamiliar and strange to be so high-energy, and also I think its quite goofy, to be honest. Then video by \u0022Sasha\u0022 you posted in the comments seems extremely silly to me, he is like an entertainer, completely off, and he behaves way too \u0022easy-going\u0022 for the situation: After all, its still a strange situation, you are doing something that almost noone is doing, just approaching people, wouldnt it be simply more normal and authentic to just be a little bit strange and natural? Isnt it best to simply be authentic and \u0022normal\u0022?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ECheers man!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4290\/95442\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-95468\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/95468#comment-95468\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/95468#comment-95468\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ESubtle Signals + Approach Energy\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Monday, 23 September 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/how-energetic-be-when-approaching-new-girl\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/95442#comment-95442\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAnon-\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOn the signals scenario you described \u2014 women signal more heavily when they think the guy has not noticed them. If you observe her dead on (if she knows you checked her out) she will usually tone the signals down and go subtler. You have already observed her; it is the man\u2019s role to approach. She assumes it is confidently in your hands now. If you want to approach her you will; if you don\u2019t you won\u2019t.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EHowever, she is still paying attention to you, and still feeling nervy because she anticipates you may approach her. So, in her slightly nervous, expectant state, she still fiddles around a bit. That is what you are seeing.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI will add: if you have checked a woman out, and are close to her, but have not spoken, she will be a little nervy whether she thinks she wants you to approach or not. Wants you to = fidgeting because she\u2019s awaiting your approach hopefully. Doesn\u2019t want you to = fidgeting because she\u2019s anticipating an approach she doesn\u2019t really want but probably cannot avoid (and she\u2019s just hoping it isn\u2019t awkward or weird).\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIMO it is better to refrain from checking her out unless and until you are ready to approach (provided, of course, that when you check her out you see something you like!).\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ERe: energy levels vs. \u201cauthentic and normal\u201d \u2014 how much approaching have you done at your authentic and normal energy levels and how has it gone? If girls are receiving you fine and you\u2019re getting satisfactory results with it, then keep at it. If you\u2019re not getting the receptions you want, don\u2019t be afraid to play around with being more expressive. 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