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id=\u0022comment-94910\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/94910#comment-94910\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/user\/31407\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Walter\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Walter\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Walter\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Walter\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/94910#comment-94910\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003E...\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/user\/31407\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/user\/31407\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EWalter\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 17 March 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/girls-who-are-dtf-dont-stay-dtf-forever\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003E\u0022He makes out with a girl in public or rubs her suggestively or fingers her in public and gets her horny\u2026 then he tries to pull her home for sex, only for her to \u2018snap out of it\u2019 somewhere en route and bail on him.\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EHow did he miss the escalation window when he moved fast?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0022He has a girl acting all sexually interested in him somewhere (like a bar or a party) but he wasn\u2019t expecting it so he tries to \u201ctake things slower\u201d, talking to her and trying to get to know her\u2026 only for her to eject at some point and go hop into the arms of a guy who will give her what she needs right now \u2013 she leaves the venue with that new man not long after.\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThis is the oposite from the point I made above, so why did she expect more in this case?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAlso you suggested to pull back when she gets turned on if you are not in a seduction spot - but this goes against the move asap concept though doesn\u0027t it?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESo the only thing that makes sense for me is thsat if a woman really wants to fuck you, she will no matter if she has to wait. If she pulls back for whatever reason she didn\u0027t really want to have sex to beginn with. I experienced somehting like that when I fingered my brother\u0027s neighbour infront of her door and grabbed her boobs while she rubbed her ass on my dick. (For whatever reason I didn\u0027t get a boner but I still wanted to fuck her). She even said \u0022let\u0027s fuck but you are too fast\u0022.So she said she needed to finish her homework first...which wasn\u0027t really the case imo. So she started calling someone and then asked me for 2 dollars to get herself a coffee. lol I waited for 5 minutes in my brother\u0027s flat and then I left. One the way downstairs she I saw her coming back with a cup of coffee and she asked me why I was leaving while she kissed me a bit but I didn\u0027t want to play her games so I just said I need to leave.  No matter what I did \u0022wrong\u0022 she must have not felt DTF 100% EVEN though 2 things were already set perfectly: a) I moved very fast and b) we could have fucked easily in my brother\u0027s place since he wasn\u0027t there and wouldn\u0027t return either that day.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4170\/94910\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-94911\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/94911#comment-94911\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Jason H\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Jason H\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Jason H\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Jason H\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/94911#comment-94911\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EDTF because emotions vs DTF because she actually like you\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EJason H (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Monday, 18 March 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/girls-who-are-dtf-dont-stay-dtf-forever\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/94910#comment-94910\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027ve thought about this a few times and reflected on my experiences and I think there IS a difference or caveats, but otherwise Chase is spot on.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nI think especially with cold approach the opportunity is \u0027there and then\u0027 and if you don\u0027t close the deal most of the time you don\u0027t get another opportunity. So follow the guidelines as above.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nThe exceptions are \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E1. if she already likes you quite a bit, it\u0027s within a social circle \u0026amp; you didn\u0027t escalate too aggressively-  You can escalate a little, fail and she\u0027ll give you another opportunity because you guys are likely to see each other and hang out again. The key is you can\u0027t have escalated aggressively or with a lot of intent to close the deal. It could be very intimate touch, maybe make outs but the opportunity to close wasn\u0027t there and you both were equally escalating on each other. She may be putting you in the boyfriend box and therefore wants to drag it out a little as well. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E2. She escalated on you more than you escalated on her i.e she was the one pursuing you while you were hanging back escalating but doing so with a \u0022laid back, don\u0027t care\u0022 attitude and that\u0027s the emotional experience she gets from you. In this case because you didn\u0027t try and close the deal and fail to do so that doesn\u0027t trigger the \u0022he tried to sleep with me but couldn\u0027t\u0022 trigger\u0022. It\u0027s more \u0022damn I couldn\u0027t get him excited enough, he\u0027s just so laid back, I\u0027ll get him next time\u0022. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe other key difference is the more she likes you the more she\u0027s likely to give you another opportunity. Funny thing is the more she likes you the more easier the escalation will be, the less resistance there will be and the more likely you are to close the deal in the first place anyway. So if you are struggling closing, focus on making yourself more EXCITING to girls and everything becomes a heck of a lot easier anyway instead of finding all these strategies around it.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4170\/94911\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-94928\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/94928#comment-94928\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/94928#comment-94928\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ERe: DTF because emotions vs DTF because she actually like you\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Saturday, 23 March 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/girls-who-are-dtf-dont-stay-dtf-forever\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/94911#comment-94911\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EJason H-\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EGood comment!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E-C\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/4170\/94928\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-94927\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/94927#comment-94927\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/94927#comment-94927\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ERecognizing \u0026amp; Understanding DTF Girls\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Saturday, 23 March 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/article\/girls-who-are-dtf-dont-stay-dtf-forever\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/94910#comment-94910\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWalter-\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cblockquote\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHow did he miss the escalation window when he moved fast?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/blockquote\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EGood catch. That one\u2019s more an example of uncalibrated escalation that triggers resistance than a lack of escalation on the window. Misfitted\u00a0example on my part.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cblockquote\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThis is the oposite from the point I made above, so why did she expect more in this case?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/blockquote\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe girl is signaling her sexual receptivity to the guy. When the guy fails to act, the girl takes that as a sign of disinterest.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBoth sexes tend to assume the other sex can \u201cread their minds.\u201d If you like her but aren\u2019t showing that obviously, you will still assume \u201cwell, she must know!\u201d Likewise if she likes you but isn\u2019t showing that, she will think the same thing about you: \u201cSurely he must know!\u201d Because the sexes think the other sex is \u201creading their minds\u201d, they also assume that any inaction is a sign of disinterest: \u201cWell, he must know I want him. If he isn\u2019t taking action, it must be because he doesn\u2019t want me back.\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cblockquote\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESo the only thing that makes sense for me is thsat if a woman really wants to fuck you, she will no matter if she has to wait.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/blockquote\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIn some specific cases it can work that way, such as a girl who is really, REALLY sold on you \u2014 some girl who\u2019s known you for months or years via social circle and deeply, deeply trusts you. That way, even if you don\u2019t go for it when she signals her receptivity to you, she gives you the benefit of the doubt and assumes there must be some other reason \u2014 not outright rejection from you to her \u2014 when you don\u2019t act.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBarring that kind of deep, lasting trust, if you get a woman turned on, and she is signaling she is turned on, and you do not close, you are most often not going to get another chance to.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cblockquote\u003E\u003Cp\u003EShe even said \u0022let\u0027s fuck but you are too fast\u0022.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/blockquote\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMoving faster than she is comfortable moving will trigger resistance in a girl. This is logical brain vs. emotional brain \u2014 emotionally she wants it; logically she is not so sure.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe right play here is usually going to be to back off, build some trust and comfort, then continue escalating. Just because she does not immediately jump into bed when you escalate \/ gives you some resistance does NOT mean she is not down to fuck. Girls can be down to fuck but still need some minimum bar of comfort to be met to get them past that final hurdle. Even aggressive DTF girls who pull you along themselves may still throw out a line of token resistance or two. Just because she gives some resistance does not mean she was not DTF. 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