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id=\u0022comment-202\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/202#comment-202\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Migz\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Migz\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Migz\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Migz\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/202#comment-202\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ELMAO!\nEven Chris Rock was\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EMigz (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Wednesday, 11 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ELMAO!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EEven Chris Rock was wrong on this one and gave the wrong mainstream advice. Of course a woman who doesn\u0027t like you will be infuriated, but she was planning to make you pay even if you had no chance, so who cares if she\u0027s angry? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIf she likes you and is attracted to you, having her pay is like shooting at the boyfriend\/provider box with a bazooka. Lover is the only remaining option. Like a nerdy redhead used to say: it\u0027s Win-Win.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/202\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-203\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/203#comment-203\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/203#comment-203\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EGood stuff! \u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EBrent (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Thursday, 12 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EChase, \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI enjoyed the shout out in your post.  I just read your response to my first comment on the \u0022Should You Pay for a Date?\u0022 post and I can see what you mean.  I just went out on another date with the same girl this past Tuesday and we ended up splitting the bill this time.  She volunteered and made it a point to pay half which I really enjoyed as she shoved cash in my face.  I returned the favor later once we got back to my place.  Point is a lot of women don\u0027t even bother pretending like they are going to pay.  (A tip for the ladies, even if you don\u0027t plan on paying you should still make an attempt to look like you could)  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI can see in some situations why I would succeed in sleeping with a woman even after paying because in many of those situations I could have done just about anything and she was still coming home with me.  This all comes down to the girls\u2019 interest level and perceived value of me at the time.  As you pointed out to Lisa if you can build enough rapport, and establish a sexual vibe or connection throughout the date, paying or not paying will have no affect on the outcome of that date or future dates.    \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAs far as the long-term provider, lover, and friend chart.  I feel at this point in my interactions with women those don\u2019t even play a factor.  I\u0027ve been attempting to better myself with women for almost 4 years now.  This includes physically, mentally, and basically anything you can think of I have read and tested in the field.  In the past I would analyze and think way too much about being caught in the friend zone. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E I realized I was basing my interactions with women in a way as you put it \u201cnot to lose\u201d.  At this point in my life and it took several years of failure and frustration to get here. I no longer look at it like the women place me into friends, lover, or provider.  I place the women into whatever category I feel they fit best in when it comes to my life.  If they don\u2019t agree with what category I place them in, I simply move onto the next one.  They won\u2019t sleep with me or some even do sleep with me and after give me the friend talk I say okay and ask them if they have any hot single friends.  Once you let go and stop analyzing so much and live in your own reality women can sense this and that\u2019s when as your blog so elegantly states \u201cgirls chase\u201d.  (I know this is a long post but I had to get it off my chest)  Keep up the good work dude.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBrent   \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/203\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-206\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/206#comment-206\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/206#comment-206\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ERe: Dating Advice for Men\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 15 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHey fellas,\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAye, I didn\u0027t even know there were all that many female readers of this blog, but yeah \u2013 seems like gals aren\u0027t liking the post on whether you should \u003Cb\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/\/www.girlschase.com\/content\/should-you-pay-date\u0022 title=\u0022Should You Pay for a Date?\u0022\u003Epay for a date\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/b\u003E all that much!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMigz, that\u0027s the point exactly \u2013 men need to avoid things that are going to position them as traditional boyfriend \/ provider types. If I see one thing that\u0027s hurting men\u0027s chances at succeeding with women, more and more, I\u0027m realizing that\u0027s what it is.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBrent, you\u0027re more than welcome for the shout-out \u2013 and cool to see you on here again!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EYou make a great point about transcending beyond the friend-lover-provider chart. It\u0027s one of those things that can be hell when you\u0027re still trapped within it, but after a while, yeah, you don\u0027t even need to think about it. You sound like you\u0027re in a place now where you know what you\u0027re looking for and what you\u0027ll accept (and not accept) from women.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EHa, you know when I get the friend talk after sleeping with a girl, I typically just agree and say, \u0022Yeah, I think that\u0027s probably for the best, if we just stick to being friends from now on,\u0022 and, like clockwork, I get a text message the next day telling me they need to see me again. At that point though, I\u0027ve already \u0022moved on\u0022 and have to remind them of their idea to be just friends and how we both thought that was a great plan!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI commented to a friend of mine recently that coaching and this blog are the only things that are allowing me to keep an analytical handle on all this. Even with these things, sometimes I see guys struggling with girls and think to myself, \u0022What\u0027s the big deal? You just go talk to girls, then invite them home, and then you get together, in like a couple of hours. Not so tough.\u0022 It\u0027s amazing how much it changes from the early days when you feel like getting together with a girl is some enormous mountain to climb...\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EChase\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/206\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-209\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/209#comment-209\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Anonymous\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Anonymous\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Anonymous\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Anonymous\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/209#comment-209\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EIntriguing\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EAnonymous (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Monday, 16 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHi, \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027m a woman and I\u0027ve been reading your blog because I find it so fascinating. It\u0027s really a breath of fresh air in comparison to blogs by women advising women on dating and all. I\u0027m actually not looking for advice or anything, but I simply like how direct and frank you are! I also enjoy reading up on these things for some reason. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnyways, I know for sure that women only want to keep the status quo, to keep things happy. I remember going out with this guy, and none of my friends would alert me about who he really was (I was in love and didn\u0027t notice anything) because they saw I was happy. They didn\u0027t want to ruin anything.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nIf you know me well enough, you *know* I\u0027ll tell you what the situation is, so I was a bit surprised that no one else did that. I remember one friend coming to me to rant about her on and off again boyfriend (the relationship was a total fiasco, I don\u0027t know how I survived), and asked me what to do. I don\u0027t like giving advice to friends when it comes to relationships, so I only told her what the situation looked like to me --he was not interested in her. This was the truth, he ended up breaking up with her completely later for that reason, but I was somewhat amused at how she never came to rant or seek help from me again. She went to another friend who I knew was going to be sympathetic and joining her in her \u0022I hate all men\u0022 thing.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESo it was good to see you articulate this observation of mine.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.cosmopolitan.com\/sex-love\/advice\/who-should-pay-for-dates?click=main_sr#\u0022\u003Ehttp:\/\/www.cosmopolitan.com\/sex-love\/advice\/who-should-pay-for-dates?cli...\u003C\/a\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nWords from the \u0022guy guru\u0022 at Cosmopolitan, I thought it would be interesting for you to see this. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EPS: I do think there\u0027s more to Lisa\u0027s story than what she\u0027s telling us! \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/209\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-211\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/211#comment-211\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/211#comment-211\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ERe: Intriguing\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Tuesday, 17 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/209#comment-209\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHey, thanks for your comments! I\u0027m glad this post apparently didn\u0027t come off as some polarizing \u0022Screw women!\u0022-sounding diatribe as I\u0027ve seen other guys launch into.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe \u0022maintaining the status quo when it comes to commenting on others\u0027 relationships\u0022 is an interesting quirk of many\/most women\u0027s. I might write a post on it at some point, but I\u0027ve noted a couple distinct-but-common flavors among women: the women who have tons of girlfriends but few or no guy friends, and the women who have tons of guy friends but fewer girlfriends (mostly because they tire of the drama). There are girls in between too, but it seems like most women fall into one or the other category.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe ones with lots of guy friends tend to be really straight and blunt about things and \u0022tell it like it is,\u0022 like you do. The ones with mostly girlfriends tend to be more concerned with taking each other\u0027s side than in giving each other honest opinions about things. I view this as likely stemming from most women\u0027s sensitivity to the strength of social bonds; most gals are constantly scanning to see how connected the bonds they share with others are, and they\u0027d rather show solidarity than potentially risk those bonds by giving contentious\/worldview-challenging advice.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIncidental to this, most guys are kind of knuckleheaded about showing \u0022connectedness\u0022 properly, at least the way most women appreciate it (active listening, commiseration rather than problem solving, ability to deeply bond over all sorts of things rather than debate or contrast), which is why so many women who have few to no male friends tend to have relationships that explode sooner or later -- they don\u0027t get men, and men don\u0027t get them.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI checked out the \u0022Guy Guru\u0022 over at Cosmo. Interesting read. I think that pretty accurately reflects American mainstream thought on paying for dates -- traditionally, the man always pays; now, with gender roles in flux, it isn\u0027t really all that clear, but the man probably ought to at least be willing to pay the greater amount of the time. I\u0027m tempted to do a post on economic and evolutionarily biological factors and why men paid for women traditionally and why it\u0027s shifting towards splitting the bill but with men still contributing a somewhat greater amount, because it\u0027s actually something I\u0027m fascinated by (how males compete for females, and how it\u0027s more complex and layered in human society than among, say, lions or chimpanzees or songbirds)... but I don\u0027t know how much interest that\u0027d generate on here ;) And besides, as one of my posters recently noted... I\u0027m no evolutionary biologist. I\u0027d probably have to cite more sources than it\u0027d be worth to have any measure of credibility!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnyway, for the record, I\u0027ve lost a few guy friends for telling them I didn\u0027t think the girl they were seeing was such a great match for them, so it isn\u0027t only some women who react that way ;) People get pretty sensitive about their relationships... I\u0027m constantly reminded of the need to tread lightly when dispensing advice there.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ECheers,\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nChase\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/211\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-214\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/214#comment-214\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Brent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/214#comment-214\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EHere we go.\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EBrent (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Wednesday, 18 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThat\u0027s great what you just said about different types of women who have lots of female friends or lots of guy friends... I completely agree with you on that... it\u0027s generally always girls with one or the other and once you find this out, it can make a great deal of difference in how you go about getting to know them and you can start to really understand how they respond in relationships.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAlways a pleasure to see a woman who can face the facts of life and not be so naive to how things really are.  Keeping with my first few comments on here.  I went out to dinner with the same girl I\u0027ve been talking about in my previous comment posts.  We went out again this past Tuesday.  She paid for the entire dinner.  I\u0027ll tell you one thing for sure.  I enjoy this she pays thing much more then me paying for everything.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI feel like in the past I almost felt obligated to pay for women because I was almost trying to prove something.  Like I had to pay for them so they would like me more.  Looking back I now realize, damn that was stupid.  What kind of message does that send.  Now I understand it doesn\u0027t matter if she likes me... do i like her is the real question.  She pays or I pay it\u0027s all about how I make her feel.  If there is a mutual attraction and we connect it really won\u0027t matter if she pays or I pay... When your just learning this stuff it\u0027s hard to comprehend.  Confidence through experience...\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBrent \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/214\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-223\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/223#comment-223\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-1-1492164307.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Chase Amante\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/223#comment-223\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ERe: Here we go.\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/chase-amante\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EChase Amante\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Thursday, 26 May 2011  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/214#comment-214\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHey Brent, I commiserate with you feeling \u0022pressured\u0022 to pay for things. I\u0027d get that feeling at times back in the day... not a good feeling feeling pressured to do anything, really.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI just put up a post on drawing the line between providing value and trying to impress women here:\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cb\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/\/www.girlschase.com\/content\/non-supplication-why-working-impress-women-doesnt-work\u0022\u003ENon-Supplication: Why Working to Impress Women Doesn\u0027t Work\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/b\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003Eexplaining a little more of the rationale behind it...\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EGreat to hear your gal sprung for dinner! Always good when you meet a cool chick who recognizes you\u0027re on her level.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ECheers bro,\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nChase\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/223\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-1512\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/1512#comment-1512\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022aamelron\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022aamelron\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022aamelron\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022aamelron\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/1512#comment-1512\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EFunny\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003Eaamelron (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Tuesday, 27 March 2012  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI find it humorous that a lot of these ladies say \u0022if you ask them out, you should pay, it\u0027s only fair.\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe problem with that  the decks are rigged by society, even for a ladies man like Chase,  90% of the time the guy is going to be the one to have to ask a girl out.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/1512\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-1532\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/1532#comment-1532\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Ryan\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Ryan\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Ryan\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Ryan\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/1532#comment-1532\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EOh god. I totally understand\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003ERyan (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Saturday, 31 March 2012  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EOh god. I totally understand when you say that women are terrible at giving dating advice to men. You see, I grew up in some rather strange circumstances. I have 6 sisters and 7 aunts. 2 of my sisters are younger than me and 4 of my sisters are older than me. I have no brothers, I do have a lot of uncles, but that\u0027s on my father\u0027s side and they\u0027re kind of crazy and I\u0027ve never met them (my dad\u0027s side is a family of black sheep). Eventually I understood that they\u0027re all pretty darn terrible at giving dating advice, I won\u0027t go too much into details though, but yeah, I\u0027ve had way too much of a feminine influence in my life. A wonderful influence to have in other aspects of life, just not in this. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/1532\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-8719\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/8719#comment-8719\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Danny\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Danny\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Danny\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Danny\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/8719#comment-8719\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ELisa is such a Laugh! \u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EDanny (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Wednesday, 1 May 2013  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ELOL!! I asked my older sister who had lots of dating experience the same open-ended question:  Have you ever had a man buy you dinner but then, despite him not being a cheapskate, you nevertheless never saw him again either after that? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EHer response is:  Of course. If it\u0027s a bad date, why would I go again? Such is life. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWhat\u0027s wrong, Lisa? How come you are not responding Chase\u0027s post? By the way, I think if I listen to YOUR malicious advice, I won\u0027t get any girls. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EGood Job, Chase! \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ECheers~~ \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EDude Chase, I bought your ebook and it is spectacular! You are the boss! =)  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/8719\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-11285\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/11285#comment-11285\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Wisegirl\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Wisegirl\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Wisegirl\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Wisegirl\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/11285#comment-11285\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ECause and effect\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EWisegirl (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 14 July 2013  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThis is a case of assuming consistent results relate to an\u003Cbr \/\u003E\nunconnected cause.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIn this article the author says that when a girl pays for him it leads to him getting laid 75% of the time.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ENo kidding!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBut she\u0027s not sleeping with you because she paid for you....she paid for you because she was that desperate to sleep with you!!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIf a girl is quite interested in you to very interested in you, (yet not desperate - I have  to have him!) then paying for you is a concept that is going to turn her off!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EJesus. If a girl would pay for you she\u0027d probably jump, hop and skip, if you asked her to, that doesn\u0027t mean that most women would or that the jumping, hoping and skipping is what turned her on! \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/11285\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-75697\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/75697#comment-75697\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Ezra\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Ezra\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Ezra\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Ezra\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/75697#comment-75697\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003E\u0026quot;actually get girls in bed a LOT more reliably when they pay\u0026quot;\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EEzra (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Tuesday, 12 April 2016  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EOh, I believe it.  I just question the causation.  A woman who\u0027ll pay for you is probably one that was already strongly inclined to sleep with you.  A woman who\u0027d sleep with you after she picks up the check is probably one who\u0027d also sleep with you if you picked up the check.  Who picks up the check has no bearing on whether *that* woman will sleep with you.  The question is whether a woman who\u0027s  on the fence about sleeping with you can be converted into one who\u0027s strongly inclined to sleep with you by you making her pay for or split the meal.  And that, I very much doubt.  That process of conversion must be accomplished though conversation, physical behavior, etc, and not by making someone pay for a meal she wasn\u0027t already inclined to pay for.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/75697\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-79645\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/79645#comment-79645\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022william excellent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022william excellent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022william excellent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022william excellent\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/79645#comment-79645\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003Eits not logic its psychology\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003Ewilliam excellent (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 10 July 2016  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/75697#comment-75697\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003Eits not logic its psychology it a combination of all the commitments she sees herslef making that turns her on even more and paying for a date is a big part of it - its dats simple\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/79645\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-90902\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/90902#comment-90902\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Stef10293865\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Stef10293865\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Stef10293865\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Stef10293865\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/90902#comment-90902\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EYes, she may think \u0026quot;now that\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EStef10293865 (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Tuesday, 13 April 2021  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/79645#comment-79645\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EYes, she may think \u0026quot;now that I pay for the date he at least should fuck me well\u0026quot;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/90902\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-91102\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/91102#comment-91102\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022LoLolol\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022LoLolol\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022LoLolol\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022LoLolol\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/91102#comment-91102\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EWell, by that logic, it would\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003ELoLolol (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Friday, 25 June 2021  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWell, by that logic, it would be better not to pay to weed out the doubtful women. If paying for the check has no bearing on whether a woman would sleep with you, what if you ended up paying for the girl on the fence and then she changes her mind and never sees you again?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/91102\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-81949\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/81949#comment-81949\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Robert \u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Robert \u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Robert \u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Robert \u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/81949#comment-81949\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003E(Chase; just found the site\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003ERobert  (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 15 January 2017  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003E(Chase; just found the site and I can\u0027t leave this topic alone. Sorry for the length of post.) \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI find it interesting that a woman would say \u0022If a guy doesn\u0027t pay, I\u0027d be turned off\u0022 but the same woman would stick to the ceiling tiles if you spoke up and called her a wh*re. But, isn\u0027t that what\u0027s implied? No pay=No sex\/Pay=Sex. Would those \u0022women\u0022 offer more energetic sex if the guy paid at a $500\/plate Beard Award-winning restaurant, or any pay gets a lay? Is there a minimum? Really, this should be specified, \u0027cause if that\u0027s the case they should be open to other acceptable forms of pay as McDonald\u0027s does run coupons in the newspaper occasionally. If he pays for the meal solely with coupons, zero cash output, does it still count? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESimply put, women don\u0027t even know what they want and as such, they are lousy at giving advice but some of them are great at protecting what\u0027s always worked. I saw several replies in the aforementioned post and I found it hilarious that nearly every chick over there was banging the drum for why it was so wrong. It makes total sense: if I could convince the world that only the one who pursues the date should pay, and I could also convince the world that women should take the role of asking, I could sit on my butt for years and live like a king whilst promising a lot and delivering nothing. Free food, free drinks, gifts, swanky dinners at the finest restaurants in town, and all for zero effort on my part. Let\u0027s be real here: in this world, if you\u0027re a guy and you want to go out with a woman, you\u0027re doing the asking. By that token, in many women\u0027s minds you\u0027d also be stuck doing all the paying. I can count on one hand the number of women I know who\u0027ve been the one to take the initiative. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIn the first date I...do...not...pay her part. If I feel she\u0027s going to be the gal for the future, then maybe things change but on the first date if I suspect for a second that I\u0027m going to be expected \u0022by tradition\u0022 to pay, then guess what sweetheart, we\u0027re going to the park. I\u0027ll call the audible and throw the ball a totally different direction. It turns off some women and that\u0027s understandable because that system doesn\u0027t fail 99% of the time, and when I opt-out, the system of profiting from the genetic advantage has failed that 1% of the time. The beauty of this is that it weeds out any chick who\u0027s just a hooker who doesn\u0027t overtly advertise and I end up spending time with women who are with me not because of my wallet but because of what I am as a human being. Right off the bat, I eliminate a lot of \u0022traditional girls\u0022 who are...let\u0027s be polite and call it \u0022sitting on a gold mine.\u0022 If she\u0027s with me to be with me and see what I am as a person, that\u0027s the woman I want to be with! I don\u0027t care about missing out on the chick who\u0027s going to proportionally flirt more in a restaurant with cloth napkins over paper ones! (And yes, I use the term chick because she\u0027s not a real woman, but a little girl looking for a free ride thanks to having been born penis-free.) \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESorry to spill a big secret, probably should keep it to myself, but I won\u0027t. One line I\u0027ve been using a lot lately is as such: if she pays for me I cut her off at the knees out of the blue, but delivered almost jokingly...almost. \u0022I hope you\u0027re not expecting to bang me tonight just for buying my meal. It\u0027s such a cliche when guys pay and expect it from women, and...I\u0027m just not sure tonight\u0027s the night for us.\u0022 Boom. Gets her predatory instinct kicking, wanting what she\u0027s been told she can\u0027t have, makes her immediately feel like the one who should be pursuing and asking herself why she\u0027s not. When she fails to figure out why she\u0027s not, the switch in her head flips and she starts moving fast. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EFellas, you cannot set yourself up for a situation to say that to her and to start that process in motion if it\u0027s your credit card being taken to the register with the check. It doesn\u0027t work that direction. Women are incredibly complex and can be very confusing. When you stop doing what \u0022tradition\u0022 and the system demands, it trigger\u0027s instincts in them that even they don\u0027t understand. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe point is to get the girl to want you, not to keep us chasing them around like puppies. It\u0027s easier to make her wonder why she\u0027s not having sex with you than to make her understand why she should.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/81949\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-89308\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/89308#comment-89308\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Daniel Estember\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Daniel Estember\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Daniel Estember\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Daniel Estember\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/89308#comment-89308\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ENever listen women when it\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EDaniel Estember (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Wednesday, 8 January 2020  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ENever listen women when it comes to love advice. I had a friend who told me to go to my ex and ask for one last chance. My ex never agreed to meetup. My ex got so angry when I came to her place. So please DON\u0027T ASK ADVICE FROM WOMEN\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/388\/89308\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-94906\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/94906#comment-94906\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Alisa Anwer\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Alisa Anwer\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Alisa Anwer\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Alisa Anwer\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/94906#comment-94906\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003ECall it what it is. \u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EAlisa Anwer (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Saturday, 16 March 2024  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/dating-advice-men-why-not-get-it-women\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI found this interesting because your definition of \u0022success\u0022 and most women\u0027s definition of \u0022success\u0022 are relatively divergent. You know why men feel the need to say be like \u0022I just want to get to know her?\u0022 Because women just want to get to know you. If we are looking for a relationship, not a one night stand, then we want to know who we are dealing with. Also, the way you seem to use the word \u0022lover\u0022 sound more like \u0022hook-up\u0022 to me. A \u0022lover\u0022 for me is someone I make connection with and grow a relationship with, not some bro I hop into bed with after 10 minutes of meeting him. I can\u0027t say about most women, but I can say about me: I\u0027d much rather you call it what it is on a date than use some wily tricks to get me to bed. Tell me, before we meet, that you\u0027re not looking for anything long term, that you\u0027re interested in a date and that\u0027s likely it. Then I can filter whether I want to do that or not based on data. The \u0022be yourself\u0022 advice isn\u0027t what you think, it\u0027s \u0022stop playing games and be honest about what you want.\u0022 And you don\u0027t have to be crass about wanting to have sex as a main objective - you can simply be forward and flirtatious while also not saying stupid things like \u0022this is so great, we should do this again!\u0022 I, for one, am sick of men who misrepresent themselves to the point I can\u0027t imagine going on a date right now. I also found it to be another example of divergent meanings of \u0022success\u0022 when you tout that you\u0027ve been on 80 dates in the last four years. My dude, for women, 20 dates a year that haven\u0027t resulted in reliable connection would be 100% frustrated purpose. That\u0027s about 2 dates a month with different randos that go nowhere. Oye. 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