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id=\u0022comment-84278\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/84278#comment-84278\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Mike\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Mike\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Mike\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Mike\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/84278#comment-84278\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EWhat a great article. I\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EMike (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 3 September 2017  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/social-proof-nightclubs-jumps-momentum-and-girl-circles\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWhat a great article. I remember several years ago I was knee deep in Love Systems\/Mystery Method where social proof is hugely discussed. I tried to use those tactics and very rarely would get a high momentum, yet didn\u0027t have the seduction skills to close.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMy results shot sky high when I decided to just go direct as fuck. This really helped me focus on closing and getting to sex. But it has the downside to lead to a big rejection. Many times I\u0027ve done this early in the night, been rejected, and had low energy the rest of the night with no real way to recovery.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI have realized that even after reading all this bullshit of just be yourself, don\u0027t give a fuck, etc... a girl\u0027s opinion of me in the beginning of the night has power on my mind. I\u0027ve been considering changing from the ballsy, direct style to more subtle. To basically guarantee that I have several good interactions, giving me the armor I need to go direct later in the night when it matters.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESo\u2013 this article couldn\u0027t have come at a better time. The triangle is amazing. Can\u0027t wait to try it out!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/2433\/84278\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-84306\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-node-author well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/84306#comment-84306\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cimg class=\u0022authortag\u0022 src=\u0022\/sites\/all\/themes\/custom\/girlschase\/images\/comment-author-1.png\u0022 alt=\u0022Author\u0022 width=\u002260px\u0022 height=\u002260px\u0022 \/\u003E    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/alek-rolstad\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-4861-1753855091.jpg\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022Alek Rolstad\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Alek Rolstad\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/picture-4861-1753855091.jpg\u0022 alt=\u0022Alek Rolstad\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022Alek Rolstad\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/84306#comment-84306\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EMike\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/users\/alek-rolstad\u0022 title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 about=\u0022\/users\/alek-rolstad\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EAlek Rolstad\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Thursday, 7 September 2017  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/social-proof-nightclubs-jumps-momentum-and-girl-circles\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/comment\/84278#comment-84278\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThank you Mike. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWell I will not lie, that Mystery was one of the pioneers of such a method, although he hasn\u0027t talked much about it in recent years. This strategy might be very powerful, it is still very hard to teach to students, which is why it hasn\u0027t been commercialized that much . As you mention yourself - you rarely got the high momentum when you started out. And even if you happen to be good at seduction, getting the ball rolling will always be hard. Once the ball is rolling things gets easy. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWhat you mention about direct game is one of the issues I face with going direct - fail and you ruin your state. That said, some players have amazing state control, and some do not care about rejections -i.e. they do not get that affected. Others, like you and I, it does affect our mood. This is why I prefer to go indirect. Once you are in, you can always get her attracted and from there escalate things. It isn\u0027t that much work in the long run, especially if you sexualize things quickly once you  have her hooked in. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E-Alek\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E      \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022pull-right\u0022\u003E\u003Cul class=\u0022links list-inline\u0022\u003E\u003Cli class=\u0022comment-reply first last\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/reply\/2433\/84306\u0022\u003Ereply\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/li\u003E\n\u003C\/ul\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022comment-84279\u0022\u003E\u003C\/a\u003E\n\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment comment-by-anonymous well clearfix\u0022 about=\u0022\/comment\/84279#comment-84279\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:Post sioct:Comment\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-picture\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 data-src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/all\/modules\/contrib\/lazyloader\/image_placeholder.gif\u0022 alt=\u0022John Greco\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022John Greco\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003Cnoscript\u003E\u003Cimg typeof=\u0022foaf:Image\u0022 class=\u0022img-responsive\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/www.girlschase.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pictures\/circle-guest-85x85.png\u0022 alt=\u0022John Greco\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 title=\u0022John Greco\u0026#039;s picture\u0022 \/\u003E\u003C\/noscript\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \n    \u003Ch3 property=\u0022dc:title\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022\/comment\/84279#comment-84279\u0022 class=\u0022permalink\u0022 rel=\u0022bookmark\u0022\u003EWaitress - Bar I\u0026#039;m regular at.\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/h3\u003E\n  \n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022submitted\u0022\u003E\n            Posted by \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:has_creator\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022username\u0022 xml:lang=\u0022\u0022 typeof=\u0022sioc:UserAccount\u0022 property=\u0022foaf:name\u0022 datatype=\u0022\u0022\u003EJohn Greco (not verified)\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E on Sunday, 3 September 2017  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cspan rel=\u0022sioc:reply_of\u0022 resource=\u0022\/content\/social-proof-nightclubs-jumps-momentum-and-girl-circles\u0022 class=\u0022rdf-meta element-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-items\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-item even\u0022 property=\u0022content:encoded\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHey Alek,\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EGreat article man..!I\u0027ve actually kinda used this a couple of times, at the bar that I like to hang out but wasn\u0027t sure if it is something..but now that you\u0027ve presented the technique I\u0027ll use it more consistently.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAlso, I\u0027ve a got a question : The thing is, some months before, a very cute girl started waitressing there. I hadn\u0027t been to the bar for quite while and two weeks back I went there and started flirting. At one point (maybe a little TOO fast, a connection wasn\u0027t built) I paid her a compliment and told her when she has day off. She kinda brushed me off telling me she has to take orders (it was Friday night and she had a ton of tables to wait) and kinda went cold. I played it cool - let some time pass - and at some point I tell her :\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0022Hey, I hope you didn\u0027t feel awkward before - it\u0027s all cool\u0022 and she turned really warm and said \u0022No, don\u0027t mention it,  it\u0027s all cool..!\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI flirted with other girls, did things similar to what you describe and again Saturday.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ELast week (Friday), I did again the social proof thing, and re-initiated flirting with her and she started flirting back warmly (she also knows 2 of my friends I go with there). \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe next day I\u0027ve decided to persist and escalate more. We flirted again and I was talking constantly with a lot of girls to generate preselection - and meet simutaneously new girls of course..! At the end of a night I tell her to come over and say to her when she\u0027s close :\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0022Bring me one paper and a pen \u0022 She was all giggly. She brings the things and leaves. I write my phone and my name, fold it and then I tell her to come over and tell her that she forgot her pen, giving her the pen and the paper. She was all giggly. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EShe didn\u0027t text or something the whole week and I saw her yesterday, where she flirted again and she hugged me and kissed me on the cheek and I tell her \u0022 That was a failed attempt to put me in the friendzone..!\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EShe giggled and hit me flirtily.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMy question is, is there a way (like scarcity - stop going to the bar I\u0027m a regular at) to have her text me ? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIt\u0027s not a chasing thing, although I kinda like her, I approach a lot other girls, it\u0027s just a fun thing the waitress game, and it would be useful to have here a detailed article about those things...!(I know there is the one about hired guns but it\u0027s too short and general)\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ETL;DR : How to flirt waitresses ? 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I hope you find success in trying out this technique. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe problem with waitresses and other hired Guns is that you never really know whether they flirt with you be nice (work) or because they actually like you. This  can be a tricky one. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAs you mentioned she is busy (working) and taking order. You therefore do not have much time to deliver the juice. This means you have to do more with less. You  have to be bullett proof and tight in your delivery, because as you have little time to flirt with her , the little you get to deliver must be smooth and hard. Pushing that small window you have will just annoy her. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI think the best thing to do here, as you got her number, is to text her and avoid frequenting that bar too often. If you go there too often it may seem a bit needy from your side. You\u0027ve shown your interest, and the ball is now in her court. 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