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At What Point Do You Give Up?

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In response to my statement in “Real Empiricists Test”, uForia asked a follow up question on how you can tell the difference between something not working because you’re not getting right, and something not working because it simply doesn’t work:

I think for most new guys, skepticism comes up when they follow your instructions but it blew up anyways, which questions your legitimacy. It is uncertain for many beginners like myself whether your method needs more practice or it’s just random PUA junk. Again, I didn’t say this to offend you or anything (I think you’re probably mature enough to not be offended anyways), as I’m sure you had difficulties finding what works and what doesn’t as well.

In other words, when should you give up?

when do you give up

This is a non-trivial question, and it’s one that’s pretty necessary to have some sort of an answer to. Because if you can’t tell when you’ve been tossing your time away on something that just doesn’t work, well... you can end up being that guy who goes and does 5000 approaches and still can’t get laid.

And you don’t want to be that guy.

The good news is that most people have a limit where they reach where they just give up without anyone having to tell them to do so... the bad news is that for most people that limit comes far too early, and for some it comes far too late.

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Chase Amante's picture

Bellastrata-

Girl-to-girl game is an interesting one, yeah. It's pretty common for girls to be bicurious at least. The concept of attainability (much discussed on this site), in fact, originates with a prolific bisexual gal who claimed to have never failed to have slept with a single woman she set her eyes on to have, no matter how straight or committed she was, simply by becoming her friend first.

What I've seen with bisexual women who are good at picking up other women for sex (lesbian, bisexual, or "straight" - doesn't seem to matter) is that they typically start out with a compliment: "Oh my god, you are so gorgeous! Your hair is just amazing! Where did you have it done?" and become the girl's new best friend. They then gradually escalate touch and continue using plenty of comments and genuine interest in the girl, until they get her alone and sleep with her.

I've had extremely "straight" girlfriends I've watched be seduced by bisexual women I've known - the only thing that breaks the seduction is if you point out to the girl what the bisexual temptress is doing (which almost no one but a seasoned seducer is wise to if the girl is good). It's very under-the-radar to almost everyone and just looks like normal girl talk.

So the process basically just is:

  1. Start off with a solid genuine compliment
  2. Continue escalating with lots of compliments, interest, and touch
  3. Use deep diving and ramp up attainability
  4. Continue escalating touch once alone, and eventually get to sex

I haven't seen enough deep girl-girl game to know if it's wise or necessary to use chase framing or sexual frames / sex talk along with your deep diving and rapport-building, but I'd suspect it works similarly for women as it does for men - with some girls, full steam ahead; with others, rely on nonverbal sexual tension while keeping things verbally none-too-edgy.

Chase

Anonymous's picture

Chase for sex I know you always recommend going hard and being animalistic over soft and gentle

Obviously the name of the game is making her orgasm hopefully a few times. What speed is best to go at thrusting wise? Like once a second or a bit faster? And should I vary this.

When do you usually switch positions? I generally stick to your adapted missionary, doggy & girl on top, what would you recommend here.

And after sex what is the best way to handle things? I never want or feel like talking much after sex it always puts me in a chill kinda mood, but should I be talking with the girl telling her how great she was etc?

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Anon-

On thrusting speed, usually anywhere from 1 thrust every 2 seconds to 2 thrusts a second is good, depending on how aroused she is when you're starting. You usually don't want to vary thrusting speed mid-sex, but if you stop (to change positions, catch a breather, or hold back from ejaculation), and start again, and she's closer to orgasm now than she was when you started the first time, you can start off at a a faster tempo if you like.

Switching positions you can do if you've been having sex for a while (10 or 15 minutes) and it's getting boring or repetitive. You can also do it if you start out in a position and it just isn't clicking, so want to try something different, OR if you're extremely horny and really just want to tear into her in a bunch of different positions. Obviously, don't do the latter if you aren't feeling insatiable, because it will just seem contrived.

No need to talk after sex if you don't want to. If it's the first time you have sex, it can be a good time to set expectations (see: "The Post-Coital Tone") or ask questions for intelligence-gathering ("So when did you first know you wanted to have sex with me?" "What about me attracted you?" etc.). Otherwise, usually nice to spend a few minutes with her during the girl's comedown period after sex (women wind down more slowly than men do after sex completes), but you can do this quietly, and even get up and go or otherwise wrap things up once it's over.

If it was great, she'll know if from your performance and behavior during the sex. If you didn't act like you thought she was great during sex, conversely, and try telling her she was, it'll just seem patronizing and insincere. Let your shagging do your talking, in this case.

Chase

Wolf's picture

Chase, how do you put tension on guys and make them intimidated? ( not in a dating way). I want people to think twice about messing with me.

How do you intimidate guys smaller than you?
How do you intimidate guys bigger than you?
How do you intimidate so called tough guys?
How do you intimidate real tough guys?

On a side note, I've seen a lot of people being exposed all the time in this social media world.

Lets say you do something freaky and a girl wants to tell people to make you look bad?

There's two ways she can do it:
1. Her telling people with no proof
2. A picture of you in the act

1. How do you not have a girl want to embarrass you?

2. Should you not do freaky things just in case this might happen?

3. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE: If caught in the act of doing something freaky and embarrassing in a picture, how does one recover from that? Won't he lose all girls and friends and be made a fool of? I'm really curious to see if you have a way to fix that situation.

Thanks

jake's picture

Chase great article.
unrelated question, what do I do when a wannabe Tucker Max comes into a group I am working. and tries to tool me in front of girls to look cool? Thamks a bunch!

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