Turn Offs for Women: What NOT to Do

turn offs for womenI made a terrible mistake once, a long time ago.

I told a girl I loved her before we'd ever kissed, been on a date, or slept together.

I was young, passionate, full of powerful, swirling emotions, and hormones that raged like a fiery dervish. I felt it was a smart move; she'd flirted with me for a long time, had even asked me out long before (I'd been too scared to say "yes"). She had to know, I decided. So, I told her. I told her I loved her.

And I never heard from her again.

Ha, whoops, I thought the next day. That was a mistake.

But, you live and learn. It ended up playing a part in finally motivating me to get my act together and start fixing things in my life with women.

I share this because I had a reader write in to share his story and ask for my take: he's young, like I was; he'd been calling and texting back and forth with a girl like crazy, and they'd shared a few dances. He'd asked her on a date, she'd been coy.

Finally, emotions welling up inside of him, he could no longer keep them pent up inside; and, like the me of yesteryear, he simply had to tell her how he felt.

"You don't see it, do you?" he texted her. "I'm in love with you."

And like me, he got no response. After that, things got weird between the two of them, and they very likely will be forever.

That's no black mark on his record, really. Me, my best friends, some of the biggest playboys I've ever met have all done this same thing. You learn from it, you move on. And what you take away from it is this: telling a woman you love her too early is one of the biggest no-nos in the book.

It's a veritable death blow to attraction early on.

Why's this? Well, as it turns out, it's one of a cluster of things men do that can be classified as turn offs for women.

We'll look at a bunch more below.

turn offs for women

 

Things That Are Turn Offs for Women

For those skimming, I'll list these out first, then dive into the explanation below:

And, actually, before diving into the explanation, let's do a little turnabout. It isn't 100% foolproof, but a fairly reliable metric for figuring out if something is a good idea or not with women is if you'd like it or not if a girl did it to you.

So, that metric in mind, I'll ask -- would you like it if a girl:

  • Fell really in love with you before you even liked her all that much?
  • Got really emotional all the time around you (good and bad emotions)?
  • Committed to you really fast (maybe even before you were all that serious)?
  • Was needy with you, or begged or pleaded you to go out with her?
  • Tried to buy you things, compliment you, or kiss up to you?
  • Was no challenge to get at all and really easy?
  • Was largely impossible to seemingly ever make headway with?
  • Argued with you?
  • Didn't bother to get to know you?

I left "failed to move fast" off this list because, well, unlike women, men tend to assess partners who move slower as more "relationship-worthy" most of the time. This changes as you reach the upper echelon of seduction skills, when you start finding yourself able to bed even very conservative girls fast (like, first night / first date fast). Suddenly, meet-to-bed time doesn't seem as important in assessing a woman's relationship worthiness. But for most guys it's an exception.

Back to turn offs for women and what not to do with girls.

Let me note that that list above is by no means comprehensive. It's just the top actions, behaviors, and categories of actions and behaviors that men do that drive women away. There are a million more turn offs out there men are guilty of (other than obvious things like table manners, or not wearing a shirt); heck, every reader of this post can probably list one below in the comments section.

If you notice one thing in common across all of those turn offs, it's this:

They all display either oversensitivity, or under-sensitivity.

Weird, huh?

The guy who's too emotional -- like the reader who wrote in was, and like I was some time ago -- as well as the guy who commits too soon, or begs and pleads, or supplicates, or fears moving too fast might lose him a girl, or isn't a challenge because he fears pushing her away -- he's oversensitive. He's fearing too much what she might think, and he's fearing losing her too much.

The guy who's too challenging, the guy who argues with a girl, the guy who fails to get to know her -- he, on the other hand, is under-sensitive. He doesn't bother to make a girl feel comfortable around him or at ease. He just plows on mindlessly with little regard thrown to the girl.

As always here on this blog, we return to that common theme: you must walk the middle path. Success does not lie on the extremes; it lays in the carefully calibrated equilibrium of art and skill that study, effort, and experience engenders in the seducer.

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Stop Turning Women Off -- Turn Them On, Instead

So, that middle path -- sounds wonderful and all, right, but how do you start walking it when you haven't reached that level of experience yet?

Actually, there's a shortcut. It won't get you all the way there, but it'll get you close enough that you can start seeing some fast changes and get yourself out of the habit of making mistakes that turn women off.

Here's that shortcut:

  • Be a man who reveals little, while also
  • Being a man who gets women to share much.

Adopting that mindset -- that way of looking at the world -- whatever you want to call it -- goes leaps and bounds towards fixing a lot of those things that are turn offs for women.

If you are a man who reveals little, you don't go espousing feelings like crazy. You don't commit too soon. You don't show neediness. You don't try too hard. You don't show hesitancy by moving slow and playing it safe.

If you are a man who gets women to share, you don't spend all your time busting on them too much. You don't argue with them. And you don't fail to get to know them.

Those are two different things to train yourself to do and be -- but you can.

Revealing little means that, at least at first, when your emotions are still strong, you must fight emotion and seek to be perceived as a rock. Women don't want a man they need to support emotionally -- they want a man who can support them. Who can make them feel soft, emotional, and feminine. They need a rock.

And even if you don't feel like a rock, by keeping quiet you can seem one. Eventually, with time and experience, your real self will catch up with the good self you seek to present yourself as.

Getting women to share means that, at least at first, especially early on if you are more interested in talking about yourself or getting to the point, you must fight impatience and let women connect to you. Eventually you'll realize it's great fun and quite enlightening getting to know women -- every girl is different.

We all mess up, and we all make mistakes. Every guy, it seems like, has a story like mine and the reader who wrote me: we have a girl we really liked, that we just plainly and simply blew it with by doing something that turned her off.

Knowing how to avoid turn offs will help, though. Maybe quite a bit.

When you feel your emotions getting a little out of hand -- or if perchance you start feeling like talking over some girl or cutting her off mid-story -- kick back and remember to reveal little while having her reveal much. Chicks dig guys like that.

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Chase

Comments

I don't see it as a middle

I don't see it as a middle path as much as a way of acting that emulates a guy who has unlimited options.

The guy who applies as much sensitivity as the Spezzatura allows him to will always win. The guy who is too uncaring looks bad to the woman because he is too obviously pretending to have more options of the same caliber. The girl partially sees through that. Whenever being uncaring comes off as being an act, which requires effort, the Spezzatura is broken and the man looks like he's needy but trying to hide it behind a façade.

Only by really having unlimited high quality options can all the rules of the Spezzatura be followed naturally.

Re: I don't see it as a middle

Hey Migz, great point / alternative way of looking at things here.

Yeah, the guy who's too hard, women usually know what's up -- it's a front. There's also the case of the guy who's too hard because he's just been doing it that way for a long time and he's oblivious to its effects on women -- he isn't quite trying, per se, that's just what his base way with women has evolved into. But I agree, regardless, being more "naturally caring" comes off in a far more appealing way to women.

Much of the time, being too hard / aloof does appear a conscious breach in sprezzatura, and has subsequent negative consequences for attraction. Imperative to maintain a natural ease instead.

Chase

I'd argue that the super

I'd argue that the super alpha who's uncaring/aloof by habit will maintain mad attraction from his lady until he becomes complacent and spends too much time with a girl or loses value in some way that makes her doubt he is really not needy.

I think you see this in alpha couples who break up and make up often. Once the guy is forced out of his complacency, he regains other women's interest and his ex-GF comes back running.

That is an excellent

That is an excellent observation. That is one reason that the jerks have more success than the "nice guys", but still fail to find complete success.

what about

What about talking about things where you simply say, like recounting a story with no big deal, that you had a particular emotion for something or were some way in some scenario? maybe that way, she knows that you are capable of these things and it's possible to get them out, just that she has to do something significant to get it out?

then again, im no expert

Re: Telling an Emotional Story in a Neutral Tone

Hey PG,

Yeah, you know, that's probably okay, provided you can keep super chill.

I will say I've experimented fairly extensively with emotional storytelling, and I haven't really found it a winner myself, honestly. Even when I used to tell a story neutrally about a time I was emotionally weak or what not, at best I'd end up relegated to the boyfriend category (and then we never get together, or she wants a lot of commitment and investment and promises and reassurances that we'll be together first, which is bad form even if you do want a relationship), and at worst I'd be done.

Just something I've found ineffective personally, but yeah, try it. I haven't tested it so extensively that I can say with absolute certainty you can't make it work, so if it's something you want to do, take it for a test drive, compare your responses from girls you do this with compared to girls you don't, and see which one gets you more returns and stronger attraction and more successes.

Cheers,
Chase

Hi Chase.

Chase, This is what happened to me..I think i might have told her that i love her too soon and i may have been too emotional at times when i got jealous and told her that she knows that im the jealous type and needs to assure me that i shouldn't be worried and jealous then she did assured me and told me that guy is not her type. We have been talking alot and i have visited her a couple of times at her home to communicate and she has shared alot of stuffs about her with me and i have shared some of mine with her, we also went out a few times but it wasn't really like a date cause we wasn't officially together yet at that time but now we are..So far she has still shown interest in me..when i notice that i always text her first before she text me i tried to not text her to see if she will text me, which she did and i was happy. Oh when we use texting mostly cause she's working and i didn't want to disturb her much.In most of our conversations on the phone or at her/my place, Sometimes i will be flirty but she doesn't kinda flirt back and she sometimes joke around like shes shy. At times she jokes about sexual stuffs and keeps saying just kidding in the end of the sentence. Is there a way that i can fix all those turn offs that you talked about in this article and also the mistakes i made? Oh and one of your articles said that i should move fast and get her to bed..well she's the kind of type that will accept sex when shes married or something i feel and she says she don't want sex yet, not to me though she just told me that cause she wanted me to know she doesn't want that and i didn't even ask hint her that i wanted that..do you have any advice for me? I appologize for my english cause i'm not really fluent in it and i didn't really know how to fully explain to you what the situation is cause i don't know where to start, so i just say what i could. If you need the full long story lemme know lol..maybe it will bore you. But mostly i think you would ask me questions so you know what advice to give me and fully understand the situation right? I will answer any questions. Again..sorry for my english haha.

Long relation ship

Hi, iv been with my girl for 5 years and just 2 month agao she had cheated on me and i was away for a month when I came bk from holiday 1 week agao she had told me everything and how she regrets what she had don and asked if I can for give her and how she wanted to say this to me befour but was schard to say, now just Saturday I was calling her and txting her she has not replyed at anything normally she will txt she is buzy or something, so on Sunday the next day, same thing but at 11:30 she replys back I'm buzy I'll call u later. And I txt her what happened to you on Saturday how cms u never txt or call she replyed "nothing" so when she called me I ask her same this after asking how is she and that, and I ask what did u do on Saturday how cms u never called or txt back, and she replys " like I sead nothing and dont ask me that" I ask why and she say she is tired this is 12:30 in the night, so I sead ok I'll let you go, she replyed "I don't want to talk to you don't call me" and after 20sec she hanged up. What does this meen?

Sorry for the long story.

Long Relationship

You need to cool-it with this girl and stop texting her. She told you she had cheated on you, and you forgave her. You then called and texted her the next week/weekend, when you should have TOTALLY ignored her. She cheated on you, so she needs to CHASE you with texts and voice-messages on your phone, asking where you are. You need to cool it with her, and make her work to win back your interest again. You devalued yourself by accepting her cheating behavior, and continuing to call + text her as though everything was cool. What she has learned is that she can cheat, and apologize, and you'll continue to act normally, meaning you aren't a challenge to her. She is losing respect for you, and is now demonstrating that by telling you "I don't want to call you, don't call me". You have been de-valued by your own chasing behavior, you need to ignore her totally and start dating other girls immediately. If you continue calling/texting, it won't work, you can't "reason" your way with a girl, you can't "argue" or use logic to win her back. You have to ACT differently, meaning TOTALLY IGNORE the girl, until she comes back to you, and even then you have the right now to behave coolly with her, and tell her you are dating other girls. Do not take her back, no matter how hard she tries. Once a girl cheats on you, it's basically over, once a cheater, always a cheater. I've never once taken a girl back that cheated, and known it to end well, it ALWAYS goes south. As soon as she tells you she cheated, it's over. Don't be dramatic, just ignore her calls and chasing behavior. This keeps your ego intact and confidence in yourself up, don't accept dishonest, cheating behavior. Always WALK, and let a girl know you will WALK if she lets you down. NOTHING is more serious than cheating, it's a relationship breaker. Do not be a pussy. Girls will walk on you EVERY TIME.

She is playing games with

She is playing games with your head...I bet you feel confused. Of course she does not see it quite this way. These are classic signs of disinterest...that is if she sent other texts that are similar. She will continue to have feelings that switch back and forth. There is a lot that I can say, but ur best bet is to remain confident in urself and as a man.

It's Over

Dear Anonymous,

I was living with my girlfriend for 7 years and we were engaged when she cheated on me. I thought she was the type that would never cheat after she passed all my tests in the beginning (then I went soft, lesson learned.) I am going to tell you this from experience and wisdom I have heard from others:

"IT'S OVER."

Don't listen to these guys tell you about how to play games to get her interested, blah, blah, blah. They don't know what the fuck they are talking about. You MUST resolve to NEVER contact her again.

If you don't think I know what I am talking about and these guys do, how come I know for a fact that within 2-4 weeks of not contacting her, she will contact you with 100% certainty? How come I know that when she does contact you she will be all sweet and have that caring, interested tone?

Do NOT take it as a sign of genuine interest no matter how much she seems like she genuinely cares about you or is interested. SHE'S NOT. Women, even the sweetest ones, can be incredibly cruel without even realizing it. This contact is PURELY to make sure you are on the hook for her still so that she can obtain emotional comfort and an ego boost. That's it. That's what you have been reduced to in her life, forever.

See with her cheating on you, and then the way she treated you, it shows a COMPLETE lack of RESPECT. Any respect she ever had for you is gone. Without respect, you don't have shit. Trust me, my friend.

Anyway, back to when she contacts you. Say exactly and only this: "It's over. Leave me alone." Then hang up the phone. And no matter what your brain ever tells you, don't ever call her again. Don't let her spin you in her web again. Don't explain your feelings to her. Don't explain how what she did hurt you or wasn't right. Don't ever let her trick you into a conversation with her again. Don't ever let her "IN" again.

Just remember these 2 things:

1. Never contact her again and get rid of all pictures, reminders, etc.
2. When she contacts you only say "It's over. Leave me alone." And then hang up. If she calls back after this, don't even pick up. Ignore her texts. Ignore her emails.

It may be one of the hardest things you ever have to do in your life. But if you have the strength to do it, I promise you will thank me later.

Whatever you had with this girl, while it may have been good at one time, is over.

How do I get her back??

There's this girl I've know for like 4 years now, I too was overtly senti and now that I look at it that way, quite possessive. probably that's what turned her off big time, we're still friends but I wanna be more than that of course - Can you suggest something to get her back mate?

I dont know what to think

Chase,
I have my eye on this young lady that I went out with once. I met her at a bar that she works. She's cool, sweet, and beautiful. I built the courage to ask her out and she said yes. We went to a Knicks game and to a bar for drinks n convo. At the end, we both agreed that we had a great time. When I suggested that we go out again, she responded "Definitely". Ok cool. So one day I went to the bar and she was working. By the end of the night, I asked her if she wanted to go out the next week, which she agreed to. So I texted her to see how she was and everything. It was going smooth until my last text that suggested we go to this spot I heard about. She hasn't text back. Is this is a sign of something? Should I be concerned? Back off?

Getting too emotional too

Getting too emotional too fast
Getting too emotional anytime (most of the time)
Committing too soon
Neediness or begging/pleading
Supplication or kissing up; trying too hard
Forgetting or fearing to move fast
Not being a challenge
Being too much of a challenge
Arguing
Failing to get to know her

If she's hot, I could deal with any of these except for arguing and being too much of a challenge. I don't know why guys always prefer a challenge. Also needy chicks = it's easy to have them do whatever you want.

Done.

Any chance?

So...
I'm 23. She's 19. I, too, got involved with a chick that started college this past year, and I fell head over heels for her. She really made me take a look at my life, and helped me into the person I am now. At the time, I thought things were going well, but I'm now understood where I went wrong. I wasn't a bit of a challenge for this girl. She knew I loved her. She knows she could have had me anytime she wanted, probably. I haven't completely moved on, but I'm much better than I was initially, when things between us randomly stopped. She made up some BS to have us stop talking, so I backed off. She checked in on me a few months after, around Christmas, and by New Years, she kicked me down again. Some bitch. Since a year or so back, I've made a lot of changes to pick myself up, but I guess a part of me will always be hopeful that we cross paths again. Anybody have any input on if I can ever expect to have a chance with her again? Only time will tell? She goes to school only an hour away from me, but that's nothing. She comes home all the time (Summer, Holidays, etc.)
Might she want to have her single life while she's in school? Idk... I'm left to hang. I'm by no means, desperate, but I owe a lot to this girl for my overall success as of late in many different aspects of my life. This shit is complicated, and if we DO ever meet up again, I've decided it won't be caused on my behalf. Am I in a bad mindset? She's kind of tortured me, so why should I return to HER? (are my feelings). If she wants a good thing, she knows where to find it. She ain't all that anywayyyy. Help me out, guys.

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