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How to Use "Grand Master Style" to Rack Up Scads of Lays

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GM style
GM style: a crass, irreverent, and utterly hilarious way to make women horny, excited... and ready to hop in bed quick.

In 1999, an American expat in Paris named Nathan Szilard commented online about a talented natural seducer in a bar he kept running into:

There’s that guy -- looks like an heroin addict, looks fortyish (but might be younger), dressed in black and/or like shit, skinny, tall, wrinkled, never smiles ... and gets laid like a rock star.

One day, at that bar – the same place Nathan always spied this guy – he chatted up a pair of girls. Suddenly, the guy showed up, flashed Nathan an amused grin, and swooped in to talk with the cuter of Nathan’s two girls.

Two minutes in, the guy asked someone for a pen and paper and took the girl’s phone number.

Five minutes in, Nathan excused himself to the washroom... and walked in on the guy and his girl making out with their hands all over each other.

Impressed and amazed, Nathan dubbed this guy the ‘Grand Master’... or ‘GM’ for short. And over the next year or so, Nathan Szilard befriended and worked to decipher the game of this guy he dubbed ‘GM’.

Note: If you are a beginner dater, probably don’t try to use GM style. You risk awkward creepiness if you botch your delivery. Focus on less edgy stuff first. For the more advanced guys (or the still-curious beginners), read on...

One of Nathan’s earliest analyses of GM style was this:

Hm trying to recollect what I forgot to mention in my earlier post.

He makes it clear right away that he wants sex. He explained it to me. He does not really understand what is going on, me thinks.

He does not compliment.

I explained him the concept of neg hit; he disagreed ... YET HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME. Well, it’s not NEGs, it’s more like ‘vannes’ as I explained once, that’s to say, taking the piss on her. So he fucked that German yesterday, and before that, made a few (light) jokes about Germans, then ‘apologized’ by hugging/kissing her.

He takes every opportunity to go kino [touch]. I’ve already mentioned that.

He claims that he does not act the same with every woman. I asked him about some place that’s packed with model-types full-bitch-shielded types, how do you handle that I asked, and he said, “You don’t get it, you don’t do the same thing there, I’ll explain you later.”

He asks boring questions, name, job, then joke on it, and when I say JOKE, I mean FUCKING LAME jokes.

To a German: “you speak German really well!”
To a Japanese: “you speak Japanese really well!”
To an Italian: “you speak Italian really well!”

Original, heh? And on top of that he said it several times to the same girl. “You really speak German well! LOL “.

For a time, Grand Master style (or GM style), a method of strong sexual direct jokes, chase frames, and sexual intent, became one of the most popular methods in the pick up artist (PUA) community, alongside Mystery Method and Gunwitch Method.

These days it’s largely forgotten.

But it shouldn’t be. It’s a different, fresh, and highly irreverent approach to bedding girls in a hurry – and the Grand Master still has lots to teach.

Comments

Lawliet's picture

Hey Chase,

I'm loving your style articles! Keep em up!
I just finished reading your boston bouncer friend's frame control article...
It was so rich in content but it help me identify some obstacles I was tripping myself over without knowing!
Like instead of biting on logical deviations girls bring up, ignore them and keep it moving forward (don't move back).

Re: Outline for social
So I'm a very efficiency-focused person.And I want to make every second count when I'm out.

I really like your dating article on "How to get first date" and outline articles for how a date proceeds ex. "Bad date analysis" or "Dating template" because it gives me the lay of the land. Although there are some missing pieces of puzzles that are scattered around the site and I had to piece it together (ex. 7 tension techniques, sexy man randy, and i forgot the others), your concise outline provides an overall birds-eye view to the whole territory and helps our conquests (ha! See what I did there!).

However, when I go out to meet with guys or girls, whether socially or romantically, I want to have a goal. It doesn't have to be the end goal, but a goal to build the steps toward the final result and apply what I learn here so I can maximize every outing to be rich in experience.

So, what are some things I should keep in mind while out (Socially mainly like with friends and Romantically too if you don't mind typing a little more XD) so I can apply what I've learned?
And how would I make my own lists so I can keep efficiency in improving myself after completing each "step goal" (as I call them) to reach my final destination and "conquer her thoroughly"?

Game plan time!
Lawliet

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Lawliet-

Good realization... many tangents are best avoided, yeah.

I would suggest you pick personal development goals. Avoid "get stuff" goals, like "I want to get person A to do X for me." Instead set some combination of effect goals and tech goals:

  • I want to make everyone around me feel deeply understood
  • I want to make everyone around me have a good time and forget their troubles
  • I want to get better at asking for compliance / today, ask for 3 small bits of compliance
  • I want to get better at compliments: today I will pay genuine compliments to 5 people
  • I want to improve my aggressiveness: today I'll ask two random girls to walk with me

Etc. You can do "Today I will make people feel" goals for effects, and "Today I will do X thing # times" for tech / pushing your comfort zone.

Coming up with your own lists is primarily about asking yourself, "Okay, where am I weakest? Where do I suck most / need the most work?" Then once you have a few areas: "What does someone who is talented at these areas I suck at do different from what I do?" Then once you've got a picture of such a person in your mind: "What bite size chunks of this individual's approach can I task myself with to try out until I've got it down?"

Do that, and you can progressively self-teach / self-learn.

Chase

Lawliet's picture

So for dating, I usually have something in mind before I go out.
But not sure if it's most efficient.

Thought I'd include it too. Advice appreciated!
A little note: This is my approach for techniques and dates.

Fundamentals I usually read it, then go out and hammer it down because it's easy to approach the next girl you see and practice eye contact or stuff like that. I think that's good so let's talk about dates and the outline for them instead:)

So let's say I want to work on "7 questions to ask her on dates" from your article.
So I would memorize the questions and then say, OK, at least remember to ask 3 of these. Try to lead the conversation to these topics.

Then I would go out and keep it in mind.
I usually go "one article" at a time to keep it in mind and not overload myself.

But sometimes as I move on, I would forget the previous ones.

What does yours look like?
Your planning process before each date

Lawliet

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Lawliet-

I'm not terribly good at mulit-tasking myself, and am rather forgetful. So when mixing in something new I keep it as basic as possible. If it's something I read from another guy online, I'll read his material, but only give myself one specific thing to test in the field.

e.g., say I wanted to really get GM style down (which I've only played with in bits and pieces). For me, I wouldn't start with the openers because then you're setting a pace of that sort of thing for the rest of the interaction, which you won't want to do if the opener is the only GM style thing you will do. So instead I'd pick a single GM line I liked and look to use it in conversation. I'd then try to cook up a few organic GM-style lines after that or to lead into it. After the night was over, I'd analyze how those went, and whether the lines I cooked up were really GM style or not. I'd keep the same objective for a few nights straight, until I was very comfortable with that first pure GM line. Then I'd set a new goal to use an additional original GM line - so now I'd be using two GM lines, plus my own ad libbed lines. After a few outings I'd insert a third GM line.

By that point I'd have a pretty good idea how GM lines worked for me - both GM's own lines, and my own. It might be his work better than mine do, in which case mine still need more refinement. It might be mine are working even better for me than his are, in which case I've probably gotten the gist of the style down and can start to ad lib more. I'd start doing two new lines every couple of outings, not necessarily to totally learn the line, but to try out new lines I otherwise wouldn't have used and continue to push my comfort zone with GM. Then once I felt comfortable with the middle, I'd start using GM openers and GM pulls and escalation.

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The other way I used to do learning when I was newer was the "write several things on a piece of paper" method. That let me test multiple things at once. It gets you more in-your-head though because you're more focused on goals - but when you're a beginner and you're in your head anyway, the cost is minimal. As you get more experienced and start to be much better when attuned to the girl/situation, having too many goals (or a piece of paper to refer to) becomes less practical and more of a distraction. But when you're new and already scattered, it doesn't hurt, and it lets you try out a bunch more things in quicker succession, which speeds the learning process up.

Chase

Alexander's picture

Hey thanks for writing this one up! There were definitely some keepers in there and I'll be implementing some of it into my own interactions. And I'm totally stealing the "have you seen my new watch?" part, fucking hilarious!

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Glad you enjoyed, Alexander!

-C

christiano vegas's picture

Hi Chase,

Very much enjoy your articles. They become monstrous lol.
Do you actually have another book in planning? Maybe something a bit more theoretical between the dynamics of males and females. Would love to read more of that.

Now to the point of this comment: I know in your earlier posts you advised to check out good movies and male actors for fundamentals and seductive characters.
There is always a discussion of modelling after a fictional character like James Bond. Mostly because he is not a "real" human being. I disagree with that. if you implement a dew traits of him, it's going to profit you as a whole.
Everything is learned behaviour anyway. In this regard. Seduction is great because it lets me play with different ideas and characters. To a certain degree, some lines are cool, but I always have difficulties with routines. That's like learning a script and takes off the spontaneity.
What are your thoughts about it? Which actors have/had the biggest influence on you? Which movie characters have the most definite fundamentals?

Actually one more question regarding this article: The GM style is very sexual direct. Our culture seems to go totally paranoid about sexual harassment. Could that be a problem for very direct guys in the future you think? Raw masculinity is something, the western society seems to be criticizing all the time now. Can boys still be boys?

Cheers

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Christiano-

Yes, they do get a bit long sometimes! Downside of trying to pack a lot in, I suppose.

I have a new course coming out... soon. It's been delayed quite a bit, but product is 100% done and we're closing in on tech. I think we may be finished with tech next week. At which point I'll announce the launch date. Details on that here. No new books planned other than article compilation books (like my How to Text a Girl book on Amazon). I do so much writing on here I'm not sure what I'd do a new/original book on, actually!

Yeah, no harm modeling after fictional characters, so far as you're realistic about limitations. Guys who say "I want to be like James Bond, who magically gets every girl he talks to" aren't being realistic. But guys who say "I want to be like James Bond - coolness, wit, confidence, innuendo, edge, etc." - totally doable and good.

My early inspiration actor/character-wise was Val Kilmer's turn as The Saint. I talk about that in this article:

After The Saint, I predominantly modeled myself after real world people. I made various real world mentors and befriend lots of talented naturals, and would work to hang out with these guys and study their personalities, mannerisms, behavior, etc., and incorporate from this.

However, if you want more on actors worth copying, we have more articles on this here:

Also, more on our forum:

The whole Videos Board may be worth skimming through for more examples, as well.

The GM style is very sexual direct. Our culture seems to go totally paranoid about sexual harassment. Could that be a problem for very direct guys in the future you think? Raw masculinity is something, the western society seems to be criticizing all the time now. Can boys still be boys?

I discussed this in my Harvey Weinstein article... my read is the anti-masculinity movement has mostly run out of gas. "We must fight nature!" movements are never sustainable - they can work for a while, but eventually everyone gets tired of being scolded to go against their own natures and the movement collapses. I think we started to see that in 2015 - the power of the anti-masculinity folks is significantly lower now than it was 2.5 years ago, and likely will continue to loss steam, popular support, and social power in the West for quite some time, in my opinion (eventually it will rise again... but I think that's unlikely to be for another four to five generations. We just don't have the conditions to sustain a feminist movement in the West any longer; you need economic prosperity, a large and happy middle class, and enough social cohesion and homogeneity that social trust is high and crime is low and women are able to operate freely in society without male escorts and not face too great a risk of attack. Without all these factors in play, feminist movements become non-starters).

So yeah! I don't think the West will get any more anti-male than it's gotten. The pendulum appears to have begun its backward swing. Boys can be boys. Not quite as much now as they could've in the past... but the chains are loosening.

Chase

David 's picture

Hi Chase,
I just recently discovered your blog and decided to have a look around and I think I feel like it's the best I've ever seen. Completely blew my notions on dating out of the water. I am just a beginner and I have been taking your words like gospel and will start trying your advice out. In addition to that, I have some friends who have had a considerable amount of success with girls but they do this thing where they find a girl's number and just cold call/cold text them. Of course the girls just burst their balls over where they got their numbers from and sometimes they weather the storm or don't (and move on). Have you or any other seducer here ever encountered this. It's probably lame but it has worked for these friends of mine. Your thoughts would be highly appreciated on this matter.
ciao,
dave.

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David-

No, outside of the Middle East I have not encountered that. Are you in the West? I've heard all kinds of crazy things over the years, but never anyone in the West doing cold calls!

I know some guys do it in the Middle East in the more restrictive countries. They cold call numbers to try to find a woman who will pick up, since it's the only way they have available to meet women. I don't know what the success rates are of this, and can't imagine it's very high. Every playboy I've known from the M.E. who was any good found ways to meet women in-person.

If you're in the West, I'd assume this to be even less productive. However, there's no arguing with results. If your friends are bedding women off this then I assume it works for your area. The only thing I'd ask would be:

  • How much work do they put in per lay, and could you do better than this (or a lot better than this?) meeting women some other way (preferably one where you meet them in-person)?

  • What kind of quality are the women your friends sleep with off this method? Are these beautiful girls, just okay girls, etc.? And could you get better quality if you met women another way / in-person?

My suspicion is you'll find they have to put in loads of work and don't get laid much off it, and likely not with the cutest girls.

But you never know. Crazy things happen. Check out their results, and if you like what their results are and would be happy with those results yourself, could be worth a shot.

Chase

Franco Lombardi's picture

Hey guys,

Here's a few other lines you can mix in (or use instead of) "I'm just kidding" so that you don't sound too robotic with that response by using it repeatedly:

"I'm just playin'!"
"I'm just messin' with you!"
"Haha, naw, for real though..."
"Haha, but on the real..."
"You thought I was serious, didn't you? Haha"
"Got you!"

Good luck out there, Grand Masters In Training! ;)

- Franco

SZ's picture

Hey Chase, I seem to be having bad esteem issues lately and it's been making me depressed.

1. When I was younger, I cared about dressing really nice, cologne and all of that, then I realized that that didn't make girls come to me like I thought, then I realized that fat guys get girls all the time, so I stopped working out I didn't stop these things for women exactly, but my drive for it went down because I felt it was a waste to do these things when everyone else can do it without it.

I feel I should care more and get back to how I was before, maybe I might feel better.

2. What was your main reason for getting good with girls Chase ? I know you wanted to get laid of course, but a man like you always has an end goal and sees the big picture. I'm sure there's many times that you wanted to quit or you felt like you got good enough, but now you're a master, did you just want the skill to get high quality mates? Was it because you wanted to make up for not doing it when you were younger ?

I ask because I want to sleep with many women, I just love them, but my problem is that when it gets tough I say fuck this and get extremely angry, hence why I quit for a while for years without realizing. I also know that this is a skill that is very valuable to me to have. I have to keep pushing.

But deep down I feel I deserve to fuck all of these fine women.

3. At my age now it's hard to really keep this as a main focus with how society is, people I know always say don't chase women chase money, you know what they really Mean? Pay for pussy! I won't do that, but what they are saying is trying to fuck girls and learn game and fuck them for free is a young man's game. Older people can't be doing this, they are against cold approach a lot, feel it's not real, are they like this because they suck?

I don't tell them how I feel or my goals, but I feel childish I guess, Is it to be a grown man doing this? IDK man, these people make it seem like it's wrong to want to learn the game and fuck bitches, they say you betta wife up the best girl you can or you gonna be lonely at 40. They depressing as hell.

I honestly feel like I can be a bachelor for a long time and fuck multiple women for a long time. I'm not like normal people.

4. I feel being black makes it extremely hard for me to get ahead with anything, dating, money etc

I never had a full time job and I read about getting skills and all, then I realize is this meant for me? Will I actually make money doing this or is this for white people, will I just be wasting my time.

My mind is starting to hold me back and I feel my race Will make it hard for me to succeed. I Get to the point of why try, I Know I Have To Win tho.
I feel this is a loser mentality, am I right? What would a winner think?

5. I'm also comparing myself to others now, I see these young kids making all of this money on social media, I think, even if I get a good job, they still will make more money than me times 10. I think I should do it, then I realize that I don't want to be all over the Internet. After watching these kids make all of this money, I think why even work ? I won't make money like them . Even when I do get money I feel it's not enough because I can't get what they have.

Some have become millionaires in a year or two, then they show all of their items. I feel I should have those things.

I just don't want all my stuff on the Internet.

Is there a way I can be rich like them without putting myself all over the net?

6. How can u have fun and excitement in my life ? I feel like life is such a drag and I look forward to nothing, I just want to have fun and buy nice things, fuck a lot of pretty women in my fly bachelor pad, with my nice cars. It just feels bad because I feel that I should have this now, idk if it will feel as good if I'm older.

I'm having some real emotional issues.

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SZ-

Yes, you won't generally lose any points for maintaining a good appearance. Usually you'll get points. You want to analyze your own results, not another guy's. Do you do better dressed down or dressed up? With or without cologne? Etc. Not what other guys are doing; what works (or doesn't work) for you.

What was your main reason for getting good with girls Chase ? I know you wanted to get laid of course, but a man like you always has an end goal and sees the big picture. I'm sure there's many times that you wanted to quit or you felt like you got good enough, but now you're a master, did you just want the skill to get high quality mates? Was it because you wanted to make up for not doing it when you were younger ?

My first motivation was that I wanted a girl, and realized I was so far behind socially that even if I got her, I'd never be able to keep her (comparing where I was at vs. where she and the guys she was dating were at). So I embarked on a journey to get good enough to reach the point where I'd be able to date her as her romantic and social equal.

Once I began to get results though, the mission transformed. I stopped caring about that old girl, and became enamored with the skill set. At that point it was about reaching absolute abundance. I disliked feeling weak, needy, or unsure, and realized that so long as women were a scarce / hard-to-get resource for me, I felt weak, needy, or unsure about women. If I could reach the point where I could reliably bring women I wanted into my bed, and reliably get the types of women I wanted as girlfriends, I'd never feel weak, needy, or unsure about women again. So that became the new mission.

There was no "making up for when I was younger" - I was past oriented when younger, but shifted out of that when I beat depression. I rarely think about the past now, and when I do so it's never with nostalgia or regret. Just "oh this happened" or "oh that happened", considered for whatever reason I need to consider it, then it's forgotten again. I don't really regret things. e.g., I tried to buy a bunch of Bitcoin when it was at $100. Spent a few hours trying to figure out how to buy it and couldn't get it to work. Back then you had to wait for a trading window to open exactly at midnight and put your request in... even when I tried that it would still say "Sold out. Wait until tomorrow." I wanted to put $5000 on it then. Had I figured it out, that'd be worth about $740,000 now, which would be cool to have. So when I look back I say, "Hmm. Maybe should've asked somebody who was familiar with it and put the extra hour or two into figuring it out it likely would've taken." But there's no feeling of regret - probably because I'm so busy working on other things I care about to worry about that. And money - there are always more ways to make money. Just like women - always more ways to get women. Not really any point worrying about women you didn't get in the past when you can just get more and better ones now / in the future.

I don't tell them how I feel or my goals, but I feel childish I guess, Is it to be a grown man doing this? IDK man, these people make it seem like it's wrong to want to learn the game and fuck bitches, they say you betta wife up the best girl you can or you gonna be lonely at 40. They depressing as hell.

Black culture is the only place I hear this these days. I have had numerous black women tell me "You better find a wife!" I have never had women of any other race say it.

Part of it is probably just that black women are more outspoken and will just tell you what's on their minds. But I think another aspect of it is social policing. 3/4 black babies are born out of wedlock. Most black men are NOT finding wives. If a woman wants to help her odds of getting hitched, she is going to participate in policing her men to try to make sure they find a wife.

Not sure if it's women or men telling you this. If it's men, maybe they're policing too, for their own reasons. Or maybe they have some reality or limiting belief. Don't really know. Sounds like you need to get out of the trap though.

I never had a full time job and I read about getting skills and all, then I realize is this meant for me? Will I actually make money doing this or is this for white people, will I just be wasting my time.

Eh. I used to get that "Is this for me? Or is it just for other people?" feeling sometimes.

You just power through it and tell yourself "Screw it. I will make it for me. I will become so good they will have to take me even if they don't want me, because no one else will come close."

Use that anger you said you felt and turn it into defiance. Impotent rage is no good. But using it as rocket fuel to work harder and with greater dedication is how you turn that anger into gold.

After watching these kids make all of this money, I think why even work ? I won't make money like them . Even when I do get money I feel it's not enough because I can't get what they have.

If it's Instagram, those people either get commercial sponsors, or in the case of the women they whore themselves out. Most of the folks who are making money online worked very very hard to get it. I know a lot of Internet entrepreneurs and every one of them who is a multimillionaire spent years slaving away, often making very little money and living a shitty existence while he did so.

Worry about your own hustle. Looking at what other people do is only useful if it motivates you. Otherwise, memory hole it and stay on the grind.

I feel like life is such a drag and I look forward to nothing, I just want to have fun and buy nice things, fuck a lot of pretty women in my fly bachelor pad, with my nice cars. It just feels bad because I feel that I should have this now, idk if it will feel as good if I'm older.

Yeah, I get that feeling from your comments.

Here's the thing: if your life is a drag, why would a woman want to be a part of it?

A fly pad and nice cars are cool. But what do you need them for? Move to a city with mass transit. Way easier to meet girls when you walk or take the train everywhere. You meet zero women while sitting in your car commuting from place to place... cars are little boxes of isolation. And while a nice pad is nice, a crappy pad is all you need if you keep it clean enough. I had a tiny little room in some guy's house in a rundown part of town at one point, and had plenty of fun bringing women back to my crap room.

Find something to do you enjoy, man. Go rock climbing. Shoot pool. Write a short story. Paint. Lift weights. Do something that gives life more enjoyment or more meaning.

You're going to die some day. What're they going to write on your tombstone, "Here lies SZ. He didn't really do anything and was mostly bored and depressed. There's not much else to say."

It doesn't take a lot of effort to try new things. Find crazy shit to do, decide to do it, go do it/try it.

See what happens. Some you won't like... some you will.

Chase

Anonymous 's picture

Hey Chase,

I read your article about flirting, and I get the gist of it; I know hiwbi would flirt with women in already in conversations with, but I want to learn how to flirt with all women the right way, from girls on the job, girls passing by, and girls im not interested in.

How would I flirt with store clerks, girls in fast food, girls I ask for help in a store etc.?

How would I flirt with a girls I have no interest in?

How do I flirt with girls that you meet randomly throughout in the day wether you approach or not?

That's the part I don't understand, how do I remain flirty and sexy to these types of women on autopilot?

Does flirting with all kinds of girls make it easier for them to throw you a bone and help you get laid?

I want to be on at all times, I feel when I have to turn on being sexy and flirty with women, it just doesn't match with me being flirty and sexy at all times with all women. I'm out a lot and I see more girls working at their jobs, than I do women walking around.

I want all women working or not to look at me as a highly sexual person.

How would I do that? And do approaches count if I just say hi to a girl, or nod my head at her and don't say anything else? Im still high a hard time really conversing with women.

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Anon-

Check out these two articles; should help:

How would I flirt with a girls I have no interest in?

You just flirt. It's just like joking with a guy, except you mix in a hint of romanticness/sexuality. You joke around with your buddies, right? Women like to joke around too.

How do I flirt with girls that you meet randomly throughout in the day wether you approach or not?

You have to approach a girl or meet her somehow to flirt (unless you're just going to wink, smile, etc.). I'm not sure how else to describe flirtation other than how I've already described it; see these articles:

how do I remain flirty and sexy to these types of women on autopilot?

Practice.

Everything sucks and feels too mechanical and fake when you're new.

First time you tossed a basketball, it felt forced, fake, and not right at all. Thousandeth time you threw a basketball, it felt a lot more natural/comfortable/automatic. And flirtation is a much more natural thing to do than throwing a basketball. You'll pick it up well before the thousandeth flirtation.

I want to be on at all times, I feel when I have to turn on being sexy and flirty with women, it just doesn't match with me being flirty and sexy at all times with all women. I'm out a lot and I see more girls working at their jobs, than I do women walking around.

Then you must construct a lifestyle that puts you around women at all times. Preferably flirtatious women.

Otherwise, learn to warm up and build momentum:

And do approaches count if I just say hi to a girl, or nod my head at her and don't say anything else? Im still high a hard time really conversing with women.

That's semantics. It doesn't matter.

Does it help you do what you want to do? Then good, keep doing it.

Does it not have any benefit? Then don't bother.

"Hi" or a head nod is okay as an early warm-up. But you need to move beyond that faster to bigger stuff if you want to build any real momentum. After a few his or head nods, start talking to women.

You'll get better at conversation as you do it more with time.

Chase

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