Girls bring up feminism sometimes at the bar or on dates. But
address this wrong, and you either look weak, or get into a fight. What
do you do?
It is not uncommon these days to read about feminism and gender related issues in mainstream and social media. It is indeed a hot subject; many politicians focus on gender issues, schools and universities have been affected by feminism, and society as a whole experiences both the benefits and the consequences of these ideals.
Regarding men’s websites, we often see critics of feminism – especially on websites related to the “men’s rights movement” (MRM) – who usually post about the negative effects feminism has on society and how it impacts men’s lives.
These MRM posts are usually normative and take a political stance regarding the subject. This is not the purpose of this post.
Contents
I want to analyze how feminism – and the subject of feminism – can affect some of your interactions with women. In other words, what do you do if a girl starts giving you the feminist talk when you are trying to escalate the vibe? I want to discuss the direct, practical implications this has on the interaction while treating the normative status of the subject as irrelevant. In other words, I will leave the discussion regarding whether or not feminism per se is good or bad to somebody else (for now), and instead share a more descriptive and practical perspective on the subject.
The idea of this post is to cover why and how to deal with women bringing the gender debate into interactions. The perspective of this post is based on the basic assumption that you want to get her naked.
If you are like me and go out a lot, you will encounter women bringing this subject up, especially in the light of important political events, which tend to stir up such controversial subjects. Note that this post is focused on feminism and gender related questions because these tend to be the most commonly brought up political topics when interacting with women. However, each of the techniques covered here are valid for any controversial or loaded political, philosophical (only if it is normatively loaded), religious, or ethical subject. I believe all of these are topics to be avoided in seduction. You will see in this post that my focus is mostly geared toward changing or avoiding the subject, as these topics are simply not fruitful for seduction.
Also note that when I am referring to feminism, I am not just referring to the topic of “gender equality” (which is only one of the many topics of feminism – one that I tend to agree with); I’m speaking of the whole ideology behind the feminist world view.
Comments
Changing the subject
Hey Alek,
Far out you're a beast. I think that's like 5 articles in the last two weeks, you're a writing/seduction workhorse.
I've always wondered whether things like " Why you trying to get all political on me?" with a smile/laugh, changing the subject without even responding to the question, or saying things like "Why you gotta ruin the conversation?" Would all be effective at dealing with topics that I don't want to discuss.
Of course, I'd be smiling and having fun as I'm saying these things. Your Thoughts?
Vermin
hah! thanks man :) Yes I am practicing a lot lately, and I am really excited about trying out new stuff.Expect future articles to be rather practical :) And yes I will remain consistent for the time being, trying to pump out a new article a week!
To your point :
" Why you trying to get all political on me?"
Man this is soooo great. sorry but, you have consider it stolen. I basically reframes the whole subject from political to flirty. Yes I would actually deliver this with a flirty undertone. This is amazing. I really liked this one.
I am however a bit skepticap about your other suggestion though, but haven't tried it out, so I cannot tell. It may sound too offensive and you may get a negative response - which you don't want! But again try it out and feel free to report back.
Either way, the first suggestion was money. I'd stick to that one if I were you :)
-Alek
Socialists and politically incorrect humour
Hi,
glad to read post on feminism by someone who study HSS. Although it is not important in your article, I have a question: you wrote "I also have cases in which I have had sex with hardcore socialist social justice warriors. Pre sex they were political; post sex they cracked up to politically incorrect jokes. How funny." I believe that being "hardcore socialist social justice warrior" is not necessarily in contradiction with making "politically incorrect jokes"
I do not know what kind of socialist those girls were (whether the revolutionaries who wanted to socialize all means of production or just social democrats who defended developed welfare state within otherwise capitalist economy) and what kind od political incorrect jokes it was (incorectness depends on context, for some people it is about ethnic/religious/gender groups, for others it is something else).
But: 1) F.e. in Central-East Europe where I live there are quite many people who are economically left-wing, but quite socially conservative (i.e. have little interest or negative view on in feminism, gay rights, multiculturalism etc.). So for example fighting for nationalization of some private companies and making incorrect jokes about gays is not necessarily contradictory.
2) In my country (and maybe in others as well) there are people with cynical sense of humour who have certain political views but can make politically incorrect jokes contradictory with it, for example anti-Nazi people making jokes about Holocaust. In some context these things can be separated.
So can you explain what you meant by what you wrote?
Thanks
Anonym
Anonym
Hey man. Thank you for your question. I will willingly try to answer your question, even though it is not related to seduction per.se.
In political sciences, it is common to break politics into two axes - one called the "economic axes" - i.e. capitalist economy VS egalitarian economics (marxism, socialism etc) - this is the orginal left/right axis. Another axis is the one called "new politics" which is between liberal and conservative.
So what you are saying is true. However, in the western world, and particularily in western Europe and the USA, most social justice warriors are socialists, but there are also some social justice warriors on the other end of the spectrum, who basically drags liberal values (value that I share) to the bitter extreme. Does this mean that every socialist shares liberal values? Hell no. But there are fewer cases of right wing social justice warriors than left wing social justice warriors. Additionally, women tend to vote more left-wing than men. We are basing those observations on correlations, which gives room for many outliers.
Hope this clarifies.
-Alek
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