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Tactics Tuesday: The “Help Run Some Errands” Date

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errand date
If you’re a busy guy, one of the best productivity hacks out there is to invite girls along with you on errands you otherwise have to run.

I know, how unromantic, right?

Well, not every date is about sweeping her off her feet and being her Prince Charming.

Sometimes, all it’s about is building the most effective path toward getting her into bed with you with as little muss and fuss as possible.

After all, you can charm her all you like once you and her are bedfellows.

Enter the errand date: where a large part of the date is structured around her helping you run some errands you have to run.

This is a super fun date, for a number of reasons... Not the least of which is that it builds in tons of compliance automatically, immediately positions you as the leader, and keeps the two of you moving, which leads to lots of shared experiences in a short amount of time... The very formula of a structured date, one of our three date templates.

But how are you going to get a girl to come run errands with you? And won’t she feel insulted? Or think you’re wasting her time?

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Lawliet's picture

Hey Chase,

Great article. Unromantic? Not really, it's a win-win scenario :)
We get work done and have a person to give us a hand and they feel "Oh gosh, we been through so much by getting his laundry!" (soo sly, it's like shopping guy except reverse...cue the evil laugh)

Question about the article:
1. First date, how far do we go in setting up a help run some errands date, and will it hinder first date sex?

2. Minding the expectations?
Let's say shopping together, probably gives her the wrong idea of passing committment point?
(BF and GF shopping...)

3. Setting up a date that ends up together.
I find it hard to set a location that prepares for conveniency in logistics, mainly because I don't know exactly where she lives so I can't suggest a place near her place since my place is out of the question. Advice on logistics and date planning preparation?

Other questions:
1. I noticed when I wear a suit and tie, I get people staring at me on the bus.
I notice people (or I think) see me as high value, a professional.

Is this on the right track in terms of being the high value man girls see us as?

Having the look, that gives the same "high value" impression without a suit.
Since having a look that's high value is the lowest effort, and highest results...
It's most passive and gets others' attentions, but I don't' want to set up "money" expectations which sabotages my hookups later.

However, I tried wearing hoodies, with same walk, same strong eye contact, same deliberateness but not the same reception.
How would I give off the same high value without wearing the monkey suit all the time?

2. My way or highway
Do you still hold onto this principle in your MLTR+NS nowadays?
Since all women eventually will want committment as they age, conflict arises if we keep NS to keep our options open.

I recently read one of your relationship article and you say it's not always my way or highway.
Please clarify or update me?

Thank you for everything Chase,
Lawliet

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Lawliet-

Errand dates work perfect as first dates. Just follow the formula! They are great for first date sex; no hindering if well run. You may even find them easier – depends on how you run your dates.

Shopping together – depends on what you’re doing. If SHE is shopping, and you’re standing around waiting, then yes. Early boyfriend. If YOU are shopping, and she is just standing around helping you / you’re playing games with her and flirting, then no, you’re not setting any boyfriend frames. The boyfriend frames to avoid are she does stuff and you help her / wait on her. I should probably do an article on that distinction.

Logistics screening: I’ll do an article on it.

Suit and tie are great for instant high value (clothes make the man). To approximate the effect without being all dressed up, get some nice button down suits and cool but non-business-y jackets. Try to always wear a jacket. Layers make a noticeable difference. Another one I quite like is a t-shirt and jeans but a suit jacket over the t-shirt. You usually need some kind of business reason to be dressed that way, though. Then again, when I was in high school I wore shirts and ties everywhere, just because. So you don’t HAVE to follow convention.

That said, there’s no perfect parallel with being dressed up in attractive business attire though – it’s why they just can’t stop putting James Bond in tuxedoes. Just like there’s no parallel to a girl in a gorgeous low-cut evening dress.

As for my relationships, I’m “my way or the highway until she suggests something to me I like”, basically. If a girl makes a proposal and I like it, then I’ll do it. If I won’t, then no. I’ve actually gotten firmer on that as I’ve aged. I’ve gotten busier, and consequently have become a lot more decisive about relationships. Give me your proposal; if it’s good, okay, if it’s not, then sorry but no. If I’m unsure, I’ll just tell her, “I don’t know. What’s my motivation – why would I want to do this?” and if she can convince me cool, if she can’t I’ll just tell her why I’m not convinced. Hope that clarifies.

Chase

Masteryofanything's picture

Hey Chase,

I have been reading relentlessly all of GC's articles for 3 years now so, in other words, exceptional content.
I am a little confused on this topic because mainly I have been trying to avoid boyfriend perception of any kind(I'm a fairly attractive guy, so I try to keep everything on the sexual level, for escalating purposes) and this type of date, seems to me, would put somebody on the boyfriend zone type. Do you have any thoughts on this?

Thanks

MasterofPerseverance

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Mastery-

Yes, I think you’re mildly discombobulated by the same difference Lawliet is in the comment above yours – basically, who’s doing what for whom.

If you take her on a shopping date where she leads you around to buy stuff she needs while you tag along like a little puppy, that sets the wrong precedent. However, if you’re dashing off to take care of errands you need to take care of and she’s just along for the ride, not only are you not a boyfriend, but you’re not even giving her a proper date. It’s more casual even than a drinks or coffee date (one of the reasons this works great).

You want your focus not to be so much on “what is the setting” but instead “what is the context.” The context here is you’ve got things to do, but she can tag along and keep you company. Compared to an early boyfriend date, where you’re going to spend a lot of time and energy on her and try to convince her what a swell mate you’d make. Same setting, but wildly different subtexts (and very different message for her).

Chase

Chandler Bing's picture

Hey Chase,

I'm a virgin and I'm a bit worried about my penis size. I'm about average in length (5.4 inches) but in terms of girth I'm like 4.3 inches so I'm on the thinner side (average is 4.6-4.8 inches). I was looking on reddit & women said girth is more important than length. I also have a downward bending penis somewhat.

Do I think I can I still give women all the hard-orgasms thru PIV you talked about in some articles here on, like from adapted missionary, etc.? Do you think - w/ learning all these techniques - I can still be the best lover a woman's ever had, relatively for most women?

Also there's the statistic that about 70% of women rarely orgasm from PIV - why is that you think? I feel like w/ adapted missionary it should be relatively simple w/ the clitoral simulation?

I also feel like dominance in the bedroom along w/ naughtiness, dirty stuff, etc. is really important caz it seems like a lot of women's arousal is psychological (being desired, feeling naughty/feeling sexy, etc.). What are your thoughts on women's arousal being much psychological? Are most guys in relationships w/ women (not like GC readers but regular population) dominant, rough & dirty w/ women in the bedroom? Caz I look around at my more average friends & I just can't see them being like that lol

Thanks

-ChandlerBing

Chandler Bing's picture

I thought about it & I deduced my biggest worry is that she's been w/ someone who's bigger in terms of penis, then she'll be more satisfied w/ him & I won't be able to be her best lover & then she'll go back to him for better sex? There are more important factors to sex that I can work on right for being her best lover?

For context, the girls I'm usually most interested in are the naturally cute, smarter, more conservative & more inexperienced girls but still this is a worry for me.

fish's picture

Hey bro, i'm very similar in size to you actually! Pretty close to cracking 100 lays though ;) You can absolutely blow a girls mind with that size, don't worry about that. Adapted missionary and legs up over the shoulders are 2 great ones, combine them with passion, raw enthusiasm and rhythm and you've nailed the psychological side.
Dominance: read Hector's articles for that. My go tos are hair pulling, a bit of biting and light choking and spanking/squeezing ass. If she really submits to you try for anal...
If she does turn out to be a serious size queen (and she'll probably have screened you for this well before you get into bed) just be sure not to get bitter about it. I've given multiple powerful orgasms to girls who told me in afterglow they're usually size queens.
There's nothing you can do about size anyway, so don't even think about it. Don't deny great girls the orgasms you'd otherwise give them to protect your ego from certain girls. Respect and look after your dick (and feed him regularly... haha) and he'll perform just fine!
tl;dr You're fine. read all the articles on this site on sex. be dominant. have lots of sex. look after your dong. now stop worrying about it and get laid!

Chandler Bing's picture

Hi Fish, that's awesome & such a big relief to hear! I was worried & down for the past 3 days when I found out my size in comparison haha. I thought I might not be able to satisfy women & thus not be give a girl an awesome time & keep her long-term. Super big relief, even if I prob overreacted a bit. Also thanks for other tips & pointers, saving them for future use ;).

I was also wrapped up in the thing of women having a "full" feeling v. not being able to feel it so much so it's not very pleasurable - how has that been for you? Did you ever have any trouble when a girl gets really wet & there's less friction, or looser women?

And even if women may have had thicker/bigger ones in the past - more for regular girls than the size queens of the afterglow you mentioned - do they still feel like you're better in bed than guys who are more well-endowed?

Overall, has it been like size doesn't really matter for the women who are w/ you unless the ones you said are size queens?

Also congrats on nearing 100 lays (& satisfying many women!) Sounds like fun times

- ChandlerBing

fish's picture

Hey bro yeah it does seem to me like you might be over thinking this too much, which can be really damaging to your sex life (and performance) as well as your self confidence. Generally speaking just don't get hung up on this stuff, focus on what you can control, especially since you're new to sex. Read the sex articles, try what's in them, and focus on technique instead of on your size. Easier said than done i know, but again, nothing you can do about size.
I've been with 1 girl in particular who had a really deep, wide inside. totally unexpected. I actually had more trouble with fingering her than sex though, just cause it was freaking me out! I think the girl in question would have been suited to a monster cock really, but I'd say even an above average guy would have trouble there. From what she told me i was the best she'd had and the first to get her off. I believe her, since even though i made intentions clear from the start and reinforced them throughout, she still stayed monogamous to me (despite being incredibly sexy) while i was single, and would text me regularly after hours. I did well with her because she was so hot that i was super turned on with her I reckon.
Average girls who'd been with bigger? Well if a girl just came more than 10 times with you in a row, woke up all her flatmates from screaming your name, and drew blood from your back without even noticing, she's probably having some of the best sex she's had ;) This girl was super liberal, and kind of a semi size queen? We slept together regularly and had really open convos. she told me she usually prefers bigger than average, but I was still the best she'd had. If you're actively trying to improve your skill in bed you're mere months away from being in the top ~10-15% of guys for the average girl.
As for wetness and fullness, I couldn't really comment as I can't compare it to sex using a big dick, really not worth worrying about.

Cheers bro go out there and have fun, life's too short to worry about length (or girth)!

Chandler Bing's picture

That's awesome man, those anecdotes really calm my worries down a lot. Thanks for taking the time to write them out. No more worrying about this for me. Might as well go work on things I can control & enjoy it. Appreciate your responses a bunch bud :)

Lawliet's picture

Sorry Chase, the way I phrased things sort of held a strong preference (which I admit I do prefer casual coolness over formal) instead of a neutral stance in asking for your thoughts.
I am now a blank sheet ready to learn ;)

What are your thoughts with suit + pickup?
Currently, I wear it for work, and meet girls day to day (did some street approaches with a suit! :D)
I noticed how some girls approach me (can't help but think they want my money though), and some girls who wouldn't even look at me. Interesting.

Lawliet

SZ's picture

Chase, with all of these crazy things happening now a days, how do you protect yourself?

I'm talking about girls setting guys up to get killed or robbed.

The girls can be from online or you might have picked them up.

but I hear stories all of the time about a guy getting set up, robbed, or killed.

it can be his house or her house.

people say to take it slow and to get to know a person, but we can't move slow if we want to get laid.

What can us guys do to protect ourselves against these girls?

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SZ-

I have not heard anything about girls setting guys up to get robbed and killed. Where are you getting this information from? What’s the prevalence?

Always try to figure out what actual prevalence is for anything before you let it go to your head. Read the book Culture of Fear by Barry Glassner. The media loves blowing up occasional incidents to new “trends” that spell doom and danger for their readers. Ever notice how every year there’s a new dread virus? Zika, ebola, bird flu, swine flu, H1N1, SARS. Each one kills no more than 50 to 500 people worldwide but it’s the next pandemic about to happen. Meanwhile influenza kills 30,000 people in America alone every year and nobody’s scared of flu.

If you really want to be afraid of something, be afraid of slipping on your bathroom floor or getting into a car accident. Statistically, you’re way way way way way more likely to get hurt or killed one of these two ways than you are by anything the media tells you about.

Chase

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