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Picking Up Girls in Nightclubs: Is It Worth Your Time?

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The loud, pulsing base. Darkness. Strobe lights.

Girls out in packs, dressed up in skimpy, sequined outfits gyrating their hips on the dance floor or hovering about the bar, expressions of bored aloofness plastered across their faces.

picking up girls in nightclubs

Men wafting about in button-down shirts, buying drinks for themselves and their buddies, offering drinks to girls, slurring out lame, corny pickup lines and aggressive-but-clumsy attempts to feel her up later on in the night.

Tall, muscle-bound doormen looming over everything, the imminent threat of violent removal if you step out of line.

Silver-tongued bartenders serving infinite streams of patrons while stripping women away from their boyfriends or the men trying to pick them up with the ease of the years of day-in, day-out training in the nightlife environment.

The VIP section, empty sometimes, other times crowded with men and women sometimes laughing and drinking, but more often looking out over the rest of the nightclub and wondering how to get that fun to come to them.

For several decades the nightclub’s towered as Western society’s ultimate proving ground for the man on prowl: if he can pick up women here – here, where they look their best; where other men gather in droves to take their chances with them; where their walls are up higher than anywhere else... surely, this man is a true ladies man.

Yet how much of that is reality, and how much simply commercial fantasy?

Are nightclubs simply used as a convenient proxy by the media for “mate value”?

And, should you spend your time in them... or are they a waste of time?

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Anonymous's picture

Hey Chase,

Given the information in this article, I'm wondering how you feel about house parties. Given that everyone there is considered "non-creepy" because typically the people there will be friends of the owners or friends of their friends, I feel like women will have lowered guards. Also, unlike clubs, I feel like some parties do have some pretty cute girls (admittedly still less than the amount we would see during the day).

So my question is, how do you feel house parties? Would you say this article applies to them as well? Or are they its own thing?

Alek Rolstad's picture

Hi there. I will try to answer your question:

Homeparties are to me considered as an extension of social circles - it goes under thhe cathegory of social circle pick up.

Homeparties are AMAZING... PERIOD. Why?
- Women have very low guards - because being a bitch wouldn't be appropriate. Also note that nobody are really a stranger to anyone there, since you have have some mutual friends there. You don't cold approach at home parties, you "warm approach".
- You will have instant rapport with girls at parties.
- Their attention span is WAY longer - because the level of stimuli is lower. This allows you to relax a bit more and not being worried of "not hooking her in" or having to see her walk away
- Her friends are not that protective, they will leave her alone because the whole scenario feels "safer" than clubs. It is way easier to isolate women at parties than in clubs - isolation is key in order to get dirty with a girl
- Parties have a lot of different types of women.
- You can still go for same night pushes
- Her mood is generally great at parties, which will affect her and increase your chances of having her being more receptive to your sexual moves
- You can oftentimes bang her at the parties - i.e. you have sex locations available.

Hope this helps
-Alek

david A's picture

House Parties are good only and I mean only , if the rules have been determined that the women attending the party WILL BE THERE TO MEET SOMEONE AND POSSIBLE PUT OUT.. Yes I am saying it just like that. IF the group throwing party made the women know clearly that they are there to meet a man and possible put out, then house parties are superior to nightclub and or day game.. Real talk.. Yet if the group is not making it clear to all the women they they are there to meet someone and or put out. .yes PUt out yes,, just like I am saying. then that house party is nightmare and should be avoid at all cost.. It all depends on the group throwing the party..

Alek Rolstad's picture

Thanks Chase, this was a fun read. I agree with everything written in here. Basically, if you dislike the whole idea of going to clubs, don't do it. I think it is key to actually ENJOY the whole club environment before even considering it.

At first I loved clubbing - i was very young, I enjoyed being in places that offered a lot of stimuli, but now I prefer actually talking and getting to know the girl - i prefer tight game rather than fooling around back and forth on dancefloors like most men do.

You've been out with me a few times Chase, and you know I don't really do "club game" anymore, but more "smoking area game".

Yes everytime I have been out with you Chase, we have been stuck in the smoking area - because that was the only place i liked picking up women. Smoking/lounge area pick ups do take place in a nightclub, however I wouldn't consider it club game to be honest. The good thing here is that you avoid all the "over-the-top" chaos factor from the club (which basically is a wildcard - sometimes is gives you a free lay, sometimes it cockblocks you) and you avoid the "short attention span" problem and you also avoid some male competition.

Women's guard are usually lowered in the smoking/lounge area. Their guard is really up on dancefloors, which is what makes it a numbers game is many ways. I like when women have their guards down, because it allows me to get real faster.

In addition to that, smoking/lounge areas allows you to do verbal game, which gives you a lot more control over the situations. You can more easily handle resistance or cockblocks when you are able to talk.

Now why do I like nightgame?
- Only with nightgame can you have those CRAZY lays (within a short amount of time). I think it is super-exciting to have some crazy sex with a stranger.
- Only with nightgame can you consistently pull FAST LAYS
- Now there are a lot of frustrating things about night game, like chase brilliantly covered... and he is right, the actual pick up is EASIER outside of clubs (during the day time for example). However I do believe that going for "number close" route and "setting up dates" can be as frustrating as picking up women in clubs if not more. Yes, I am here talking about flakes, her not responding, her losing interest over time, her seeming aloof... and all that. I find this the most frustrating thing about seduction - I literally hate it. It is boring and frustrating.

I have been into this for 8 years, and I haven't met a single good seducers who has managed to totally fix the whole "flake issue" and I frankly don't think it is possible. I think that when you leave a girl, you are not in control over the situation and her emotions. If her day is shit, she will flake.... if her day is shit, she won't respond. If she is sad that day, she won't respond. As you are not around her, there is very little you can do, and that frustrates me. Sure thing, there are a lot of things you can do to minimize and prevent flakes, but you will never be in full control over.

This issue is avoided in clubs because as you mentioned Chase, in clubs you have to go for the pull right away. You are in this case more or less in control of the interaction, from A to Z.

Now, that being said, you can still do "same day lays" during daygame and pull right away. However, in this case other issues might occur - such as her actually having plans for the rest of her day already.... ETC

Thanks for this good read Chase

Alek

Aman's picture

I enjoyed reading your comment, it clearly comes from a place of experience. Having said that, I do think that there might be a little more to what you said about being in control of the interaction at nightclubs.

From her persistent cockblocker friends, the restive environment, to being a victim of the artificial nightlife hierarchy- I think there are a number of variables that are out of our control at a club. Whereas, during day game, you do tend to have complete control on atleast the interaction that you have with her. And if you check all the boxes and have the logistics in place, then you really can pull her for a pit-stop sexcape.
If you end up setting something up for later, then make sure you don't go home satisfied with that one probable date plan. You must keep approaching other girls with an intention to pull one right then and there. There can only be so many girls who really do have some place to be that day. If you're resilient enough, and with proper game, more often than not, you will end up hitting a home run the same day.
And when that happens, the probable dates that you set up seem more like something that came gratis with the awesome daytime fuck. And I don't know if it's true for you, but I feel this intoxicating rush with an immense confidence boost everytime I fuck a girl without having her socially lubricated with drinks.
About the flakes, I think Chase and William Gupta covered them in great detail:
What to do when girls flake
How to turn flakes into dates

Anyway, I do think it all depends on what you prefer. If you believe you can control the interaction with all the added variables of the nightgame, then I would believe you. After all, we all are playing this game of confidence and self belief, and what better tool to have in a game of confidence than confidence itself.

Great article chase, and I love reading your articles Alek. :)
You guys rock.

-Aman ;)

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Aman-

Quick few notes:

When you get to the point where you’re “pretty well-versed” in nightclubs, cockblocking becomes a non-issue, and you’ll find girls’ friends will generally help you hook up with them more often than not. It’s like all the women who used to stand in your way when you were less good have suddenly switched to helping open the gates for you once you reach a certain point, which is… nice. It actually makes it easier to hook up with girls oftentimes, because women who’d otherwise be on the fence get their friends pushing them to go with you, or just vanishing and leaving them all alone with you, granting you their implicit stamp of approval for managing the rest of their friend’s night.

The nightlife hierarchy’s a pain, but it’s most acute in mega clubs / high end clubs, and you can get around much of it by sticking to the less commercial places (which are the ones Alek and I both prefer).

That said, I’m totally with you on your points about day game. Feels awesome shagging a girl who’s stone sober and can’t even vaguely blame the decision on “drinking” (even if she only had one drink and it was 2 hours ago). And being able to grab a couple of “probables” to set up for later and then keep at it until you find one to pull the same day is next to impossible with club game.

In my mind, the best part about day game is “meet her anywhere”; you’re no longer restricted to the girls you meet in nightclubs, but if you see a cute girl… wherever… just chat her up. That was the biggest change for me, transitioning from mostly-night-game to a mix of night and day, way back when.

Chase

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All great points, Alek!

A lot of nightclubs don’t have smoking lounges in the U.S. and elsewhere (many do though), however most places have multiple rooms, and if it’s anything other than a giant one-room dance club there’s usually one or two rooms that are much better for socializing than others.

Most places when you enter, you come into the big giant central room with super loud music and a big dance floor and bars and maybe VIP. Then it’s time to start walking around the walls and looking for rooms branching off the side where the music is not as loud and the people in less of a tribal leaping and jumping state.

It seems like a lot of guys who are newer or intermediate don’t pay attention to these rooms, because they think the big central party is where the “action” is at, and where the girls will be horniest. They often don’t realize women here have disproportionately high walls to being approached and that they’re fighting past a lot of competition… whereas if they meet those same women in a more relaxed part of the venue, they’ll have a much easier entry into chatting with them.

The big room has its perks, especially if you’re out for aggressive escalation (and you’re good at it), but it requires a much more specialized approach than a lot of folks realize.

I have some newer stuff on flake-handling/prevention we should talk about, that I was basically forced to start doing since I do more dates. Was going to write something on it here, but I don’t want to take steam from your comment and I think I’d prefer to save it for my upcoming course ;) Might not be all that useful to you now, but when you get to be an old fogie like me and you want to do the clubs less it may come in handy.

Chase

JJ's picture

In the past I'd frequent dance clubs and sometimes biker ones. I didn't stop altogether I still do head to clubs, but just very infrequently. The options weren't the best. I definitely prefer the larger stomping grounds daytime offers b/c I like being able to see if a guy has yellow or rotten teeth, acne or something I can't overlook. Most guys at nightclubs from my experience are just nasty like I think they use the dark atmposhere of a club and nighttime to hide or downplay their bad looks, disguise ominous vibes or bad intentions overall plus I feel people are a tadbit more "genuine" in daylight. I did find some acceptable guys in clubs, but house parties or at venues are the best even once it gets dark. Basically, I like starting in the day and if it lead into the night that's fine, just rambling with someone for 5 minutes in fogginess is not enoug for me I'll think they have major std's or are cons. I do after all have some standards. Although, I have gone and sealed the deal with a few guys after like ten minutes only because I'd spoken to them on a few previous occasions for several minutes at the same location so I kind of knew them. I've long distance friends who assemble gatherings to congregate friends from all over and I enjoy attending those type of events when I can since, I like the surplus..

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JJ-

Yeah, everybody hits that age sooner or later where nightclubs become less exciting. The sheen wears off and then your motivation to go declines. Still might go sometimes, but it’s less of a regular event.

Agreed on nightlife and looks; you generally won’t find too many genuinely gorgeous people in nightclubs, male or female. It’s more dressed-up average-looking folks doing their best to look gorgeous, and you’ve really got to hunt for diamonds in the rough. One of the big benefits of day game: people are trying a lot less hard to look good, so there’s less snake oil to go around, and yet there are a lot more genuinely attractive people out and about regardless.

Simplistically, nightlife’s generally easier for quantity; daytime’s generally better for quality. Though, plenty of notable exceptions in both arenas!

Chase

Pistol's picture

Thanks for the wisdom Chase, I am starting to feel like I am developing an unfair advantage over my peers from the application of your scrupulous explanations. As a fellow red haired aquarius just finishing college and starting to really succeed with girls I feel like I am downloading the information of a much more experienced, yet rarely like minded individual. I deeply appreciate your mixture of intellect and morality.

Also, I am running into a bit of extra trouble with cute chicks who aren't terribly bright. Its been a bit painful for me to watch them be so enthusiastic and bubbly upon first meeting them, to then see their almost childlike disappointment set in over the midst of a forced deep dive attempt. I've experimented a bit and found more success when I tune down my intelligence and kind of just act playful and dumb. I was wondering what your opinion on this was because I can definitely see it expediting the cutting your teeth in nightclubs process aforementioned in the article. Probably not the most politically correct topic but perhaps a "How to pick up dumb girls" article is warranted haha

This is off topic but I know you have an interest in the martial arts- whats your opinion of Conor McGregor? Definitely an interesting cat, and in my opinion worth giving a look at as a master of psychological domination and frame control.

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Pistol-

Ah, hello, younger Me.

Yes, I long had the same problem: just goes nowhere fast with unintelligent women. What’s the IQ conundrum? I think it’s anyone 15 points lower than you or more seems like an idiot, and anyone 10 points above you or higher seems insane. Kinda like the driver one: everyone driving slower than you is a moron, and everyone driving faster is crazy.

The best way I’ve found with dumb girls is to leave off deep diving, aside from a little light diving to find out her dreams, and primarily focus on banter, having fun, and lots of touch. And moving fast.

The biggest barrier I found was my own set of reservations; I realized I had a certain classist disdain for unintelligent women that made me kind of turn my nose up around them and raise my own walls, and they’d start to auto-reject. Once I switched over to the natural mindset I found that took care of itself, since I was primarily thinking about shagging this girl silly in a one-and-done, and whatever she says is beautiful and wonderful because it’s moving us closer to that romantic goal. You could also use visualization (if you’re encountering the same problem I did, of being kind of smarts-snobby).

Conor McGregor… can’t say I know him. Someone new to the scene (like, last 10 years)? I’m the worst at keeping up-to-date on new things, but… I’ll check him out!

Chase

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And here's the post:

How to Pick Up Dumb Girls

Chase

david A's picture

I have had more success with day game than nightclub in Large Metro cities. Yet I have had a great deal of success in nightclubs in small towns, military towns and college towns. I think it depends on where you are in America. If you are by a Military and College towns, the nightclub will be great. It understood in Military and College towns that the girls will be there to hook up and or find a long term date. I have learn that Metro cites nightclub are awful. There is too much "attention seeking, and making profit" going on in Metro city clubs. I live in Atl and the clubs were awful. Belive it or not that where the term "Parking lot pimping" comes from. It was create by guys in the South who hated to go in the club to avoid all the nonsense. I live in New Orleans and french quarter are great but that is an Outlier. I wish all of America was like the french quater .. Which is basically an unoffcial red light district. I live in LA now and the club scene is awful (2023)l. City girls are broke (in Los Angeles) and they are going to clubs to get free drinks and attention. I personally would steer clear of big metro cities clubs and focus on towns were the either the Military or college is the center of the economy. And be careful of small town bars/clubs. The problem I am noticing in small towns is we have too many Old Women as bar flys. They are heavy in the small towns. These are women way past their prime . I mean like 30 and up.. I am not into old women. So watch out for small town they are basically Old women hangout now..

One outliers is House parties.. House parties are great if and I mean if , the group throwing the party has made it clear that the women will be there to MEET SOMEONE , AND OR PUT OUT AT THE HOUSE PARTY OR GO HOME WITH SOMEONE. yES, if the house parties has made that clear, then house parties can be superior to both nightclubs and day game. Yet if the house party is being thrown by a group that has not made it clear that the women will be there to "PUT OUT THERE OR GO HOME WITH SOMONE" AND YES i SAYING IT JUST LIKE THAT.. Then the house party can be a nightmare and worse than a nightclub.

Good luck all in all , I say alway keep Day game as first priority. Nightclub in small town are next. And house parties anywhere with clear objectives lol ! on Women putting out can be better than both day and night game.. Good luck..

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