FR  Powerful epiphany, desire to succeed and no more excuses

Before posting on Girlschase tonight, I had a powerful epiphany where I asked myself why the fuck do I hit the bar scene for my town every night even though I am now a 22 year old virgin. Why is it that I always end up going to the bars when I know that bar game is rough for guys and I my chances of getting laid are not too high. I am in a southern university, not in a fraternity, Arab, and in a pretty racist part of the USA but we all have our excuses. Then it hit me, years ago I was at home with my overbearing immigrant parents and I did not have these freedoms. I was not given this opportunity to go out, drink, chat with cool guys, hang out with hot girls, and explore a beautiful nightlife scene. I go out because I want to and this opportunity might never come again in life when I am young and have so many chances to enjoy myself. Life might have given me a sheltered and difficult upbringing but here I am with the opportunity to make up for it and do something, a chance to enjoy the life my overbearing parents denied me. So many people from my town would kill for this kind of opportunity that I have to go out and I am going to make something out of it.

I am tall (6'1), dark, and handsome as fuck and I know for a fact that with that right break and that lucky moment, I can wake up in the morning with a hot blonde naked in my fucking bed. I just know it, I have a chance to re-write an amazing story and truthfully, I am not going to give up. My life has been bad circumstances, in most cases I know I would have had a chance to get more hot pussy than a rich frat boy but I did not have his circumstances, if I did then I would dominate. I know I am the guy with all the potential in the world but just not the right head coach in my life to make good use of that potential. Honestly, I think I am better than at least 90% of the guys at my college, I know I am, and I will not accept my bad luck growing up, I will do something about this shit...

And now for the field/fuckup report:

So today was a very odd day, the night before I hardly got sleep for my classes in the morning so when I got home after my classes at around 5 or so, I took a long fucking nap till night. I know I am not going to sleep after that shit so I decided to hit that scene but before I went out, I had this epiphany. I always go out alone so I decided that this time won't be any different. Before going out I had some pizza and then I went out as always.

I hit my first bar where I had something to drink, talked to the bartenders while sipping on my drink and then I decided to chat with the bar owner for a few seconds. Finished my drink and headed to another bar where I had a drink once again and had something to drink but I just chatted with a bunch of guys. Headed out of that bar and headed to another bar where I would take my chances.

The bar itself was a dance club type of bar where I lightly approached a Persian girl who was rude to me so I walked off and then danced a bit thinking maybe I can get attention, not really, so I just headed out of there. That bar sucked anyways.

The bar I went to is the bar I usually go to to pre-game for the most part. I go there, amazing gender ratios! Look around and it is mostly younger college kids. Kinda shy to approach at first but then I finally say fuck it and approach a table with 3 blondes. One cute blonde responds to me as her friends look on.

Me: Guys, I think I am too young for this bar
Her: Ya, are you new here?
Me: Well, not really but I do need to find myself an older guy's bar
Her: Well if you go to that part of town (names part of town), that is where bars for older guys are
Me: What bar do you recommend?
Her: (names a bar)
Me: Cool thanks (as I head on out)

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So I head on out and go to that one bar. As I am on my way to that bar I see this one interracial couple ahead of me, a shorter black guy with a tall blonde wearing nice Jordans and it pisses me off (yes I had my racist moment). At that moment, I kinda had these beliefs in my head that she was only with him because he is black. I had a moment in my mind where I wished that in the future there comes a time where I run into attractive white girls that have a fetish for guys that look Arab, Indian, Pakistani, Asian, or browner Latino. Got me back to thinking if I saw just one exotic looking guy with a really hot blonde slut, it would kill all of my limiting beliefs permanently, I know it would.

Again, I am in a pretty fucked up part of the USA but hay, you just have to keep on trucking.

Walk in to the bar I was supposed to go to and decide to get this nice drink while I look around.

Had this one drink that was powerful and I saw a couple of blondes standing out. See this one blonde with unique yoga pants, fuck it, time to take my shot.

Me: You are the first girl I have seen all night dressed that well, are you from Europe?
Her: Now, I am from North Carolina but I am German
Me: Wow no fucking way, what brings you here?
Her: I go to college here
Me: Same, so are you a freshman because you look really young
Her: No I am a senior, just coming here every weekend for a nice time
Me: We have something in common now don't we (laughing)

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We chat a bit and I make up a story about how I used to live in Europe but then after taking too long, the girl tells me she has to head on out and I say why not. I think I might have fucked up. This is where I am struggling, I can get the guts to approach but I have no idea on how to actually escalate in a college town setting to where I can take the girl home and eventually fuck her brains out.

So I decide to walk around the bar where I would talk to a couple of guys for about ten minutes what drink is worth drinking and then I decided to head out of that bar and go on to another bar. The bar I would go to is the one that has a lot of hot college aged girls.

I go to the bar itself and then I notice that while I am there, I see this one really tall blonde who is almost as tall as me and I have to just point this shit out.

Me: You are the first girl I have met here who is almost as tall as me
Her: Ya I have heels on!
Me: Nice! Still not as tall as me (teasing her)
Her: *laughs*
Me: Do you model?
Her: Kinda
Me: Same here, kinda
Her: *proposes to high five me*
Me: Wow, so where are you from?
Her: Hungary actually
Me: Nice
Her: Hay I want you to meet my friend *leads me to her friend*

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So the girl leads me to her friend and I find out that her friend is a native born Southern girl (oh brother!). We chat for like 30 seconds and then I bail. The tall blonde seemed to be into me but her friend did not give two shits at all. I bailed and then headed to the bar I love to go to where I run my game. I go to the bar and check the place out for a bit before finally getting the balls to approach these 3 girls.

Me: So I am drunk to where I can barely stand, should I get another drink?
Girl: Ya, totally! (laughing)

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Don't really remember too much of what was said but I tell those girls that they look like freshman to me, they tell me that I look kinda young too but they say they were grad students. We go on to talk about our future choices, they tell me I should be a doctor but I say I don't have the brains for that, I am going to aim to be a famous actor instead. One of the girls says "nope, you have no shot, bye!". Then the convo goes quiet and I just kinda leave from there.

Sit around and then see these two girls on a table, one blonde and one brunette, sit down to approach them. I basically butted into their conversation and cold approached them right off the bat, one seat on the table was empty.

Me: So, how are you guys doing tonight?
Them: *look at each other as the blonde laughs*
Me: (look to the brunette) are you Arabic?
Her: Haha no!
Me: That was random, so what are you?[/quote

Don't remember all of the conversation but the brunette tells me she is English and Scottish. We have a talk about ages but as a whole, it didn't go that well. The blonde seemed to be ignoring me but the brunette was somewhat engaged. Eventually I tell them I have to go but I struggle to get up a bit because I had too much to drink. Brunette grabs my hand and helps pull me up. Blonde was a total bitch the entire time and it didn't go that well.

So that practically ended my night for the most part.

Lessons learned:

1. Maybe not try to bail out as much during a conversation, try to stick around more?

2. I am a lot more bold now when approaching but I need to take that next step which is why I am still here.

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Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

This would likely have been a great post, unfortunately I stopped reading as soon as I encountered the word "virgin". Looking forward to a post that doesn't contain that word.
Ray

Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

Altair,

That was a good night. so stop writing FU on the title, because you'll have A LOT of FU if your success criteria is getting laid, and that won't help you at all.

Altair said:

So I head on out and go to that one bar. As I am on my way to that bar I see this one interracial couple ahead of me, a shorter black guy with a tall blonde wearing nice Jordans and it pisses me off (yes I had my racist moment). At that moment, I kinda had these beliefs in my head that she was only with him because he is black. I had a moment in my mind where I wished that in the future there comes a time where I run into attractive white girls that have a fetish for guys that look Arab, Indian, Pakistani, Asian, or browner Latino. Got me back to thinking if I saw just one exotic looking guy with a really hot blonde slut, it would kill all of my limiting beliefs permanently, I know it would.

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Stop thinking like this if you want to kill your limiting beliefs mate...Your thoughts create your beliefs.

Altair said:

We chat a bit and I make up a story about how I used to live in Europe but then after taking too long, the girl tells me she has to head on out and I say why not. I think I might have fucked up. This is where I am struggling, I can get the guts to approach but I have no idea on how to actually escalate in a college town setting to where I can take the girl home and eventually fuck her brains out.

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Maybe you were trying too hard to impress with your fake europe story. Keep the conversation on her or relate to her emotionally..not just the fact that you have "travelled to europe". When you share too much about yourself too early, like you did here, it's a sign of too eager to build rapport. Always use pauses and ask her some questions like, "yea have you ever seen that?" to engage your audience. Another tip is...never use fake stories. They never work because your intention behind it is seeking validation. Good chemistry develop naturally without trying.

I think for your next step is to develop your conversation skills. Talk to as many people as you can and have fun and genuine conversation with them without trying to have a goal in your mind. Talk to girls you're not attracted to, then you'll see the pattern of your conversation and where it needs work.

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assuming that my goal is to get my first make out and eventually lose my virginity, how long will the process likely end up taking?

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2 years of grinding to lose his virginity? Ouch. He doesn't wanna take my advice so I won't give it. All his reports are the same. Has a drink in a bar and bounces to the next bar. Hits like 10 bars in a night. He needs to focus on a GF, it'll be easier to lose viriginity to a GF. Go for a 6, maybe a 5, date her for a month and bang. Congrats you lost your virginity and now you can go bar hopping all you want looking for your hot blonde to bang. Everyone wants to be shot out of the cannon banging 9s and 10s right away. No one wants to take it slow, aim small and take small victories when they can.

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Agree with Radeng, set more attainable realistic goals.

Altair said:

assuming that my goal is to get my first make out and eventually lose my virginity, how long will the process likely end up taking?

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Don't even ask that question. The crazy thing Altair is that you think if you got hot blonde bombshells calling you for you to dump your cum into them you'd be happy and fulfilled and your limiting beliefs would be destroyed.

It's all bullshit man. Even if you had a harem of sexy blonde bombshells you'd still have all the same problems you currently have except you'd be able to fuck a girl for an hour and not think about your problems.

To answer the question though it probably will take a year or two of steady, solid, grinding to better not only your game but also you mindsets, health, and happiness.

You can't just be some dark dude that just wants to fuck a blonde bombshell and get your rocks/validation off. You actually need to become a genuinely cool, high value person that can attract those type of women into your life.

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HellAtlantic said:

2 years of grinding to lose his virginity? Ouch. He doesn't wanna take my advice so I won't give it. All his reports are the same. Has a drink in a bar and bounces to the next bar. Hits like 10 bars in a night. He needs to focus on a GF, it'll be easier to lose viriginity to a GF. Go for a 6, maybe a 5, date her for a month and bang. Congrats you lost your virginity and now you can go bar hopping all you want looking for your hot blonde to bang. Everyone wants to be shot out of the cannon banging 9s and 10s right away. No one wants to take it slow, aim small and take small victories when they can.

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Don't agree here, lost mine to a casual situation

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Well you see there is a problem, I am not going to be in this target rich area called a college town for 2 years and maybe not even one. I am practically done with school after this year so it is mostly my only shot. Sure I will have the problems I have now but I would rather get this virginity thing out of the way as fast as possible, prostitution is illegal in the USA and the escorts in my area are ugly as fuck (fat ghetto black chicks, all of them). Maybe I am aiming my sights a bit too high by going for that blonde 9 but I can live with a white girl that is at least a 6 (of any hair color).

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He doesn't wanna take my advice so I won't give it.

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Then don't, I have told you to leave me alone and not post on my threads because you have nothing of value to add, most of the times I do not go this far but please fuck off. You have called me gay on my reports and even went as far as to say I have problems when I am simply looking for good advice. I don't know what some mentally twisted person like you gets by kicking someone that is down and I am usually a tolerant guy but fuck off.

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For the girl in Jordans part, look man I know it can be tough to see guys of other races having success while you do not but you have to get over this shit. If it makes you feel any better, there are rich Arabs who are sleeping with countless hot blondes. Whether that girl had a taste for black culture or whatever, get over it and quit feeling like an Eliot Rodger. After reading the field report I have some criticisms to make.

1. That Hungarian blonde, why did you not stick around? If she was into you while her friend was being a bitch, you could have stuck around and chatted with her or at least went in for her number. What you seem to be doing is spam approaching and then leaving like some guy at the mall that tries to sell you stuff, stick around and get to know the girls a little bit better. See if you can isolate them and maybe just get the number to meet up at some other time, I have known guys that do this from bar game though it can lead to a lot of flakes it's worth it.

2. Limit alcohol intake, being drunk as hell affects your game to the point that you miss opportunities. One light drink to get you in the mood is enough but do not try to get wasted.

3. I read that you are an engineering major a while back, do not go out 4 to 5 times a week like the guy on this thread said, school comes first you need that fucking degree!

4. Going back to number 1, stick around. Do not go person to person spam approaching, talk to a girl or a group of them, stick around, and actually invest into the conversation. As the night goes on, you might just end up getting lucky right then and there.

5. Fuck this whole you need 3 years to lose your v card shit, the people here are clearly putting guys that get laid on a pedestal, fuck no! Guys that are overweight get laid, ugly guys get laid, and guys who are imperfect drunks at a low point in life get laid. You may as well lose your virginity next week if you get lucky, that is how it works, there is no set time frame for any of this and what your post on the forum might not even be the real representation of how you might be in real life.

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Oh Pry said:

For the girl in Jordans part, look man I know it can be tough to see guys of other races having success while you do not but you have to get over this shit. If it makes you feel any better, there are rich Arabs who are sleeping with countless hot blondes. Whether that girl had a taste for black culture or whatever, get over it and quit feeling like an Eliot Rodger. After reading the field report I have some criticisms to make.

1. That Hungarian blonde, why did you not stick around? If she was into you while her friend was being a bitch, you could have stuck around and chatted with her or at least went in for her number. What you seem to be doing is spam approaching and then leaving like some guy at the mall that tries to sell you stuff, stick around and get to know the girls a little bit better. See if you can isolate them and maybe just get the number to meet up at some other time, I have known guys that do this from bar game though it can lead to a lot of flakes it's worth it.

2. Limit alcohol intake, being drunk as hell affects your game to the point that you miss opportunities. One light drink to get you in the mood is enough but do not try to get wasted.

3. I read that you are an engineering major a while back, do not go out 4 to 5 times a week like the guy on this thread said, school comes first you need that fucking degree!

4. Going back to number 1, stick around. Do not go person to person spam approaching, talk to a girl or a group of them, stick around, and actually invest into the conversation. As the night goes on, you might just end up getting lucky right then and there.

5. Fuck this whole you need 3 years to lose your v card shit, the people here are clearly putting guys that get laid on a pedestal, fuck no! Guys that are overweight get laid, ugly guys get laid, and guys who are imperfect drunks at a low point in life get laid. You may as well lose your virginity next week if you get lucky, that is how it works, there is no set time frame for any of this and what your post on the forum might not even be the real representation of how you might be in real life.

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#5 is so true sir.

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radeng said:

And Hell, idk how you suggest he just goes out and gets a gf, he can't just hit her over the head and drag her back to bed, he still will have to seduce whatever girl he gets to some extent lol

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You're completely right, but I think Hell meant running a low-pressure, 5-date-before-fucking plan.

It's weird because here we often feel that sleeping with a girl on the first date is the easiest (I wouldn't know; I've been pushing for same-day lays ever since I found GC and I don't know if that allowed me to bang more or less girls and would have to switch back to test) but 95% of the guys that I know that have GFs did it over weeks/months.

So while I agree with you, I know where he's coming from.

Heres some time line perspective for you, from me to justify the times I gave:
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Holy shit dude, that's eye opening. And I felt bad that I botched on logistics and lost a girl this weekend (that would 2 lays in 2 weeks). Thanks for sharing.

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Well lets see, so far from what I gather he has:

1. Been out almost 3 to 4 straight weeks based on his field reports.
2. Shown that he can actually approach girls (most guys cannot do this).
3. Been a member here for over a year and this is what his first post said:

Decided to use google back when I was 18, came across PUA material, read some stuff about game, and started to approach girls. Got good at talking to them, getting their numbers, and even getting close to them but I could never gather up the balls to go for a first kiss. Soon after that I would come across more seduction material and some of it told me about how screwed up women are mentally. I was spending a good bit of time reading PUA material, seduction material, and finding out about what game is about. It made me feel less nervous talking to women but I could never really go farther than them. I can approach a girl, open a conversation easily, and get her number but I cannot go beyond that.

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I don't see what is really missing here. If he can talk to girls, has been reading game material for years, has regularly been approaching for a while before hitting a slump, and is determined enough to post field reports, I think 6 months is a stretch and he doesn't have 6 months to really pull it off. If he is a college kid, he realistically has till December (he said he is done with school after this year on this thread) to pull this shit off.

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First of all, I should apologize for my douchey response on your "credibility" post. I intended it to be a bit humorous with a bit of tough love, but given your emotional/psychological state, it wasn't the optimal way for me to respond. Hopefully the day will come in the near future where you will see replies like mine or Richard's or Nova's and chuckle it off with a "LOL...this foo", but for now, I genuinely apologize because that wasn't the way I should have treated a guy who's down and hurt.

With that said, I intend for my response below to be genuinely helpful. However, be aware that it will be of the "tough love" kind. There will be no motivational, uplifting fluff because I believe that only makes you feel empowered for a short period of time, then you wind up back at square one. What I want to do is follow Chase's advice that he gave here, and leave you with something that you can DO.

You can stop here and ignore my advice like you said you would. However, it would only prove the point I made, that your attitude is not one that is conducive to attracting women. Why? Because refusing to read on just because it's from fsc demonstrates narrow-mindedness and stubbornness, which aren't exactly the most favorable traits on an ideal man.

Anyway, here are my (hopefully constructive) criticisms:

There was so much anger, bitterness, and jealousy in this report that it actually pained me to read it. I'm not sure if you remember, but I actually exercised Chase's suggestion about a year ago. I recommended that you take some time off from approaching because your mindset at the time was very negative and hostile toward women. I based my suggestion on my fear that your anger would manifest in any approaches that you made, which would make the girl uncomfortable and reject you, which would in turn throw you deeper into a pit of hatred and frustration. I'm sad to see that things have gotten worse.

You just can't have that much anger, bitterness, and jealousy toward people and expect to be successful in friendships and relationships. It just HAS to go. How? I don't know. I'm not a psychologist nor am I experienced enough in the social arts to know the solution. However, I know enough to know that you must get rid of this negativity and become the lover of women, of people, of life, that GC tries to teach you to be. Think about all the men and women you know, have known, as well as characters in films. People are attracted to those who are happy and warm, and people avoid those who exude anger, frustration, etc.

The next time you see a blonde with a guy that isn't Arab or brown, I want you to think "Good for him". At first, just focus on suppressing your emotions and just say that in your head and move on. Then eventually, hopefully, I want you to get to the point where you're feeling nothing but love, and praise and respect the guy for having the game and/or luck to land that hottie.

"I am now a 22 year old virgin", "I am in a southern university, not in a fraternity, Arab, and in a pretty racist part of the USA", "my overbearing immigrant parents", "Life might have given me a sheltered and difficult upbringing", "My life has been bad circumstances, in most cases I know I would have had a chance to get more hot pussy than a rich frat boy but I did not have his circumstances"

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Although the overall context was positive, we've all heard this before, and many of us have told you multiple times to stop bringing it up. This no longer makes us empathize with you nor does it give us incentives to help you out; it just makes us cringe and casts an unnecessary, gloomy mood. Listen, and stop telling us what we know already.

I know for a fact that with that right break and that lucky moment, I can wake up in the morning with a hot blonde naked in my fucking bed. I just know it, I have a chance to re-write an amazing story and truthfully, I am not going to give up

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This is on the border between hopeful and obsession. Hope is good. Obsession is bad. You absolutely need to take blondes off the pedestal. I was quite concerned when I read this. Ask yourself, what would blonde girls think if they read this and all the other stuff you've been posting about them?

a really hot blonde slut

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This also concerned me. There is a good way to call girls "sluts", but the attitude and mindset behind the way you call girls "sluts" is just totally not cool. They are just girls, but you've pedestal-ized them and objectified them beyond what I'd consider healthy. There are times when it's okay to treat girls like filthy fucktoys, but they are people who also need someone to talk to, someone to understand them, someone to appreciate them beyond the physical, etc.

You also have a taker/entitled mentality, which was demonstrated to its fullest in the "credibility" thread. Others have addressed this so I won't talk much about it. What I want to mention though, is that people just don't like takers. Even your desire and intention to sleep with girls come from a taker/entitled mentality. Rather than trying to fuck girls (you trying to TAKE their body for YOUR pleasure), try to give girls good emotions. See if you can MAKE HER happy, see if you can MAKE HER horny, and see if you can MAKE HER want your cock. Then you can fuck her brains out, and she will thank you for it rather than feeling used and regretful. Give and you'll receive. Never demand. And be thankful for anything that you receive.

I want to mention something else while on the topic of giving. Imagine a father who repeatedly tells his boy to wear his helmet and pads while he skateboards, but the boy keeps coming home with cuts and bruises because he doesn't wear his helmet and pads. It's natural for the father to eventually get annoyed and raise his voice at the boy. Similarly, put yourself in the shoes of other board members for once. They have taken their time to read through your posts and reply to you. They've went through their fair share of failures and other difficulties, and they're trying to HELP you, so it's natural for some of them to grow frustrated after seeing you post the same stuff over and over again. So at this point, it's almost your duty to GIVE BACK by posting reports and questions that demonstrate that you have digested all the advice you've been given. This report is a good start, I'll give you that.

assuming that my goal is to get my first make out and eventually lose my virginity, how long will the process likely end up taking?

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This is not the question you want to be asking, and not the goal you want to have. Your goal should be to become the man (in both mindset and appearance) that GC tries to teach. Then make outs and all the other debauchery are just aftereffects that come sooner or later. But first, you must aim to become a better man and rid yourself of all the negative stuff I blabbered about

Finally, allow me to give you a concrete assignment per Chase's advice:
I want you to go out during the day, since receptions will be warmer, and approach all kinds of girls including blondes.
Your goal/intention is NOT to fuck them. Your intention is to improve their day by genuinely complimenting them, finding out about them, empowering them, whatever. The interaction doesn't have to be super special. It could literally be as short as "Oooh, nice outfit! I hope you have fun wherever you're going!". I just want you to get in the habit of GIVING, and start seeing women and social interactions in a new light. I want you to do this until you start feeling happy about yourself inside. Be happy about the fact that despite your troubled past, you still have the ability to make others happy.

Other than that, I'm done. I can't help you any further.

Just kidding, I wasn't done.

I know I am the guy with all the potential in the world but just not the right head coach in my life to make good use of that potential.

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You are alone. You control your life.

Best of luck to you.
Be chill homie.

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The problem is that you don't have confidence to close the deal, and for some reason you have a problem with black people. Once you realize that and put that discriminatory bullshit to rest, then your mind should allow positive energy in. Approaching and bedding women isn't rocket science. I understand having your "type" of girl, but that's also somewhat putting it on a pedestal so to speak.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same process and expecting different results. Get some small wins first with a 6 or 7, let the blonde beauties see you socializing and being warm with girls then move them away from the group. Go from playful banter to MOVING the girl, instead of playing verbal tennis in a night club when she's in a group.

Also, drinking is fine, but seems like you're using it as a crutch. Being able to seduce women should not be something you can only draw from when you're at a nightlclub or hammered. Keep approaching but switch up your mindset, go for casually seductive, the idgaf if you're a hot blonde, I talk to women like you all the time approach. They probably smell you're a virigin from a mile away man.

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In my country there are racists everywhere you go - not just in one part of the country. They hate Muslims in particular (or maybe just the ideology of Islam), and I'm a non-Muslim Persian guy in Europe. Judging from my appearance - black hair and facial hair - I could look like the typical Muslim. However, I've only laid and made out with native (or native looking) girls before. If you want to use the 1-10 scale, the hottest I laid was a 7 and the worst a 4. But you know, they were genuinly great persons all of them. I never blamed my background for the success I didn't have the last couple of years. I've always associated my failures with the event(s) that were going on at that particular time (e.g. I had oneitis, low abundance, unattractive nerdy behavior, missed escalation windows, not intrigued her enough and so on). Sometimes I blamed the women initially, but later I would look at where I fucked up.

I don't even know why I'm going out of my way to tell you this.. maybe I genuinely want you to succeed, but with your current mindset you are fucked. There is only one thing right with your mindset, and that is the realization that this opportunity might never come again in your life EVER.

Altair, quit all these long intros about "I'm a X year virgin living in racist parts of Y." These details should not matter to you. Because if you believe in them, only these are the hindrance to possible success. Just write the god damn field rapport without putting so much emphasis on your background. Heck, try to go through September without considering the facts that you're virgin and living where you are. Just focus on your fundamentals, mindset and moving fast. Remember you might not get this opportunity again EVER, why would you waste it..

Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

NO NO NO, you guys do not get what he needs, he needs action!

None of this fucking RSD Nation shit, I have known guys that used to be associated with RSD Nation and most of that company is a fucking scam. Altair does not need this meditation bullshit that you guys keep talking about. The kid has had 2 years to surf the internet, watch the videos, read blog posts, and look at all the porn he wants. What OP needs is action, experience, and application, fuck everything else. OP needs to talk to people, talk to women, and work on those social skills. He does not need to waste time arguing with forum members that feel the need to attack him and neither does he need to spend too much time on internet forums in general.

You guys don't get it, from what he says, he is out of college by December which means he does not really have that much time. 3 months fly by very fast and OP needs to go out there, socialize, take action, and the only advice he needs is advice on what to do. Don't leave the convo too quickly and don't get too drunk to run game, that is the advice he needs.

As for being the lover of women.

Look, I have seen cheats, scumbags, and some of the worst character men out there sleep with hot girls. OP does not need to spend this time going on some nirvana buddhism yoga bullshit about rewiring his brain yet. He is a virgin, he is not having sex, and he is not socializing with people much. The problem does not get fixed by online psychology or watching youtube videos which will disappear from your brain in a day, it gets fixed by fucking a girl. This whole being a virgin thing is mentally fucking OP up and it should fuck up any guy after a certain age.

All this bullshit advice you guys are giving about watching youtube videos or going on some journey, there is no fucking time for that, there is only time for action. OP needs to keep on socializing and building positive experiences from that. OP has his entire life to embark on this bullshit mental help journey, right now he needs action, pussy, and real life experience.

OP needs as little time on the internet as possible. I would even suggest that he get off this forum and go out there, becoming social in the process and just talking to lots of people.

Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

Oh Pry said:

NO NO NO, you guys do not get what he needs, he needs action!

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YES YES YES, that's what we're prescribing. Unless, of course, you mean "action" as in the giggity giggity

Oh Pry said:

What OP needs is action, experience, and application, fuck everything else. OP needs to talk to people, talk to women, and work on those social skills. He does not need to waste time arguing with forum members that feel the need to attack him and neither does he need to spend too much time on internet forums in general.

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Yes, but have you asked yourself "how"? How is he going to take action and gain this...[positive] experience?
Can you not foresee his mentality sabotaging his interactions with girls?
Oh wait! It has actually happened already, in case you haven't read his report: "I find out that her friend is a native born Southern girl (oh brother!). We chat for like 30 seconds and then I bail."

You can't be just sitting there saying that he needs action, experience, and application...it's too vague.

Oh Pry said:

You guys don't get it, from what he says, he is out of college by December which means he does not really have that much time. 3 months fly by very fast and OP needs to go out there, socialize, take action, and the only advice he needs is advice on what to do.

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Yes, the blonde bombshells are expected to go extinct by this December. Time is running out!

Oh Pry said:

Don't leave the convo too quickly and don't get too drunk to run game, that is the advice he needs.

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He actually realized the former by himself, in case you haven't read his report. Others have already suggested the latter.

Oh Pry said:

Look, I have seen cheats, scumbags, and some of the worst character men out there sleep with hot girls. OP does not need to spend this time going on some nirvana buddhism yoga bullshit about rewiring his brain yet. He is a virgin, he is not having sex, and he is not socializing with people much. The problem does not get fixed by online psychology or watching youtube videos which will disappear from your brain in a day, it gets fixed by fucking a girl. This whole being a virgin thing is mentally fucking OP up and it should fuck up any guy after a certain age.

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But perhaps those cheats, scumbags, and the worst character men don't hold such detrimental views of women?

His problem is not that he is a virgin. His problem is his mentality, and it will not be fixed by banging one blonde girl. Actually, his mentality is the main obstacle preventing him from banging in the first place.

Heck, if you want to solve his virginity problem quick, allow me to recommend a high quality escort. I actually joked about this to an escort friend of mine, and she has a friend in Atlanta who regularly travels around the region as well as LA and NY. She's in her mid-20s, BLONDE, and as you can see in the pictures below she takes very good care of herself. She's a top-notch Georgia peach, but she's not from the south. In fact, her parents are from Michigan, but she was born in China so she may be able to relate on topics regarding minorities. She said she usually costs about $500, and you can ride her multiple times while you have her.
Front shot here
Shot of her back

Oh Pry said:

OP needs as little time on the internet as possible. I would even suggest that he get off this forum and go out there, becoming social in the process and just talking to lots of people.

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I mean, that's sort of like what I said. Except I placed a bit of emphasis on giving good emotions to those he interacts with, to give him a goal/focus in the interaction, rather than "just talking"

Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

Motivation is bullshit, if you need motivation to do something then you may as well not even attempt it, forget motivation. You need discipline and consistency in this case. The very fact that you guys are recommending RSD material to OP is a joke, RSD Nation is mostly a scam and mental masturbation at its finest.

The whole demeaning views of women OP holds, some players I have come across hold a lot of the similar views. When you are attracted to a certain kind of woman so much and you can't get her, it is human to feel the way you do. TBH, fuck mindsets, there are guys with way more poisonous views of women than OP fucking girls and I have personally met and talked to these guys. Being a virgin is a heavy toll a guy's mind, no matter what mental gymnastics they play on themselves, 21 is getting there. I myself hold some views of blonde bombshells even after having slept with some and interacted with them, they're not like your girl next door or that sweet traditional girl from an immigrant family, it is what it is but I get sex with them.

As for fsc, that was not in any way funny or helpful, a waste of time on a poor attempt at satire.

Mentality is not the problem here, I am not a "lover of women" that Chase would describe but I have still had sex with a few. Most of the guys out there getting laid are not doing so by using Girlschase version of game. This not about some mental therapy, he has had a year for that shit. Fixing this problem is more objective, it is about doing and criticizing. The guy has taken the time to write the FRs and I think the very least people can do is point out the flaws that he needs to fix the next time he goes out.

He doesn't need a therapist or some "you can do it!" youtube video, he needs action, experience, and criticisms of his actions on this forum.

Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

Oh Pry said:

I think the very least people can do is point out the flaws that he needs to fix the next time he goes out

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LOL yeah, that's exactly what we were doing. So let's get back to that, rather than hijacking this thread into something else where one calls another's advice bullshit lol chill

Re: FR/FU: A powerful epiphany, desire to succeed, and no more excuses.

I was not specific enough with my post.

I mean like actually point out what he did wrong in his actions in talking to girls rather than attempting to be an armchair psychiatrist or some PUA marketer who is trying to make him watch some bullshit motivational video. Something else I forgot to include is that it isn't so nice to spam someone else's field report's with poorly done satire either.

Rather than telling the poor guy that he needs to listen to some balding ginger or has to magically fix his mindset, it's just better to tell him what is wrong with his approaches and interactions. This is not the time to send him to a Tony Robbins seminar, it is the time to tell him what he is doing wrong (drinking too much, ejecting too soon, and staring at interracial couples too much) rather than what magical mindset he needs to adopt because we have all the threads in the general section to do that to people.

If he is taking action then why not criticize his actions rather than trying to sell him some magic motivational pill? It's fucking pointless, motivation rarely lasts, he needs results and believe me when I say that there are plenty of guys with poor mindsets towards women who still manage to fuck them. Leaving college a virgin is going to haunt this kid for the rest of his life no matter how much anyone in here wants to deny that shit.

He posted these field reports for the same reason anyone else does, including me, he wanted to criticisms on his actions, not read material from future motivational speakers.

At the very least, if you're attacking his mindset then show how his mindset had an impact on his actions in the field report.